| Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 | It's so overwhelming it's hard to even let it sink in. In the back of my caregiver brain is this suitcase of thoughts . . . Like, what is this? What now? Charles is having a party! He is ecstatic. Just before his surgery yesterday we had the what if the cancer is down in your voice box with his surgeon. We had decided where ever it is to remove it. So I spend a few hours wondering what it would be like not to hear my husbands voice again. )-: Then his surgeon comes out looking VERY perplexed with the best news. Guess I better join the party. WOW.
Wife/caregiver to Charles ENT diagosed SCC Rt Tonsil Stage IV, MET 6 lymph nodes in neck 1/2001 Tonsillectomy, RND and six weeks RADS 2/2001 ENT diagnosis from CT scan, SCC in Rt tongue 2/13 25% of tongue removed 2/13 (clear margins) SCC BOT with mets to 2 level 2 nodes and Lt. Delphian node 8/2014 Surgical biopsy shows cancer in larynx 9/2014 Laryngectomy, resection & rebuilt tongue w/ pectoral muscle, selective neck dissection 11/2014 Recurrences '16 HPV Neg No EGFR Mutations Detected
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Live in the moment and celebrate this miracle that was dropped in your path! It's too good to not really enjoy and celebrate.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Great news! I don't know the hospital or where the pathology was done, but they can be sent to another facility to get rechecked to see what these weird cells are. Some don't do pathology in the hospital, except frozen section maybe. I would think a final biopsy would come back in a few days?
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 | Yes. The biopsies are being evaluated by another facility too. We are at WFBH in Winston-Salem, NC. I do think the pathologist here uses frozen section. Usually it takes a few days to get the final report. Will let you know what final says about weird cells.
Wife/caregiver to Charles ENT diagosed SCC Rt Tonsil Stage IV, MET 6 lymph nodes in neck 1/2001 Tonsillectomy, RND and six weeks RADS 2/2001 ENT diagnosis from CT scan, SCC in Rt tongue 2/13 25% of tongue removed 2/13 (clear margins) SCC BOT with mets to 2 level 2 nodes and Lt. Delphian node 8/2014 Surgical biopsy shows cancer in larynx 9/2014 Laryngectomy, resection & rebuilt tongue w/ pectoral muscle, selective neck dissection 11/2014 Recurrences '16 HPV Neg No EGFR Mutations Detected
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Frozen sections are done during surgery by the surgeon to find clear margins, and where the surgeon may look at samples under a microscope and/or send to the pathologist immediately. Maybe the pathologist comes to the OR, not sure, but I always seen a charge for them on the itemized bill. http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/discovery-diagnosis/detailed-biopsy.phpGood luck with the results.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
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Wife/caregiver to Charles ENT diagosed SCC Rt Tonsil Stage IV, MET 6 lymph nodes in neck 1/2001 Tonsillectomy, RND and six weeks RADS 2/2001 ENT diagnosis from CT scan, SCC in Rt tongue 2/13 25% of tongue removed 2/13 (clear margins) SCC BOT with mets to 2 level 2 nodes and Lt. Delphian node 8/2014 Surgical biopsy shows cancer in larynx 9/2014 Laryngectomy, resection & rebuilt tongue w/ pectoral muscle, selective neck dissection 11/2014 Recurrences '16 HPV Neg No EGFR Mutations Detected
| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Sheryl,
I am so happy that you are both relieved and happy! It makes me feel so good inside!
I do think that you're doing the best thing by getting a second pathological opinion, so as to set your minds at full ease.
Love, Kerri
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | This is great.  you have to trust your drs have done their due diligence. I would look into his diet and minimize acidic foods. Plus maybe he has gastric reflux which could cause some type of damage to those areas. Hugs and fabulous
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 | Thank you! I am trying to stay busy, waiting for final pathology report. They are doing a flow cytology so it's taking longer than usual. Sheryl
Wife/caregiver to Charles ENT diagosed SCC Rt Tonsil Stage IV, MET 6 lymph nodes in neck 1/2001 Tonsillectomy, RND and six weeks RADS 2/2001 ENT diagnosis from CT scan, SCC in Rt tongue 2/13 25% of tongue removed 2/13 (clear margins) SCC BOT with mets to 2 level 2 nodes and Lt. Delphian node 8/2014 Surgical biopsy shows cancer in larynx 9/2014 Laryngectomy, resection & rebuilt tongue w/ pectoral muscle, selective neck dissection 11/2014 Recurrences '16 HPV Neg No EGFR Mutations Detected
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 65 | Just received this from Charles' surgeon . . . Charles,
Unfortunately the pathology revealed cancer. My advice is to proceed with surgery we originally discussed.
JDB
Gulp . . .
Wife/caregiver to Charles ENT diagosed SCC Rt Tonsil Stage IV, MET 6 lymph nodes in neck 1/2001 Tonsillectomy, RND and six weeks RADS 2/2001 ENT diagnosis from CT scan, SCC in Rt tongue 2/13 25% of tongue removed 2/13 (clear margins) SCC BOT with mets to 2 level 2 nodes and Lt. Delphian node 8/2014 Surgical biopsy shows cancer in larynx 9/2014 Laryngectomy, resection & rebuilt tongue w/ pectoral muscle, selective neck dissection 11/2014 Recurrences '16 HPV Neg No EGFR Mutations Detected
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