| Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | Has anyone ever had a recurrence ON the tongue flap? I have a weird place ON my tongue flap that I CAN FEEL pain in?! The mere fact that I can FEEL it boggles my mind.....Then there is the fact that is is looking weird. I may be biting it during the night.....but just wondering. I'm about 8 months out of surgery with a check-up coming up....but was just curious if anyone else has experienced sensation in the flap....then an irregularity on the flap. Thanks.
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Hi ChemTeacher,
Anything is possible. My pec flap is in the cervical neck is not a problem, but I had cancer come back at the surgery lines from prior neck dissections. I read, for some reason, if cancer comes back, it often comes back at the surgical lines, probably microscopic cancer, maybe seeding, I would think, and it also comes back just outside the surgical field, margins, maybe field of cancerzation, synchronous or microscopic cancer. Recurrence average is about 8 months, not that it is, but the best thing is to have it checked as soon as you can as a precaution, and hopefully is nothing. Like before, if anything unusual doesn't go away in two weeks, have it checked.
Good luck.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | To give you a direct answer, unfortunately I have seen 2 cases of this happening to OC patients. This is VERY rare.
Just remember... its NOT cancer until a biopsy says it is. If you are concerned, go get checked and have some peace of mind.
Good luck!!! ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 | It's great that you are having monthly monitoring. As for the flap, I was told, no, it wouldn't recur there. However, my recent cancer, although quite small, managed to extend a wee bit onto the flap under my tongue. I felt nothing on the flap but there was soreness in the base lesion. My original flap (still have most of it) changed all the time over the four years . It grew more and more like mucous membrane tissue ... almost sounds as if there's a nerve in yours. Best wishes for your check up:)
1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol. September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision. October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT. February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 | I have sensation in my flap. It started off almost feeling like a bee sting if it bit it.. Now I can feel it more intensely - it's not 100 % by any means but I do feel it. Also it probably won't ever look entirely normal, and nerve regeneration can feel achy or painful - I would have it checked out - hopefully it's nothing, hugs.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | Thanks everyone for the words of wisdom. I have an appointment on the 15. Hopefully, it will clear up by then......hopefully, I'm just biting it at night. I'm definitely glad to have feeling in the flap. I was shocked by that but did some internet research and it happens! So cool. As for the "place" on the flap, I will just be patient and watch and wait another week for my appiontment.
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
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