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#177458 02-13-2014 03:11 AM
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Three years out from treatment for BOT cancer. Everything remains clear. I now need to have a tooth extracted. Radiology oncologist (sp?)said I do not need hyperbaric. Most everything I have read online indicates the need. Any thoughts or comments?
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Buster, I am one who firmly believes in HBO and how effective it is in helping to avoid ORN. Ive done many dives so I speak first hand about how well it worked for me.

Here is a similar recent thread on roughly the same subject. Check out my reply dated 2/10/14 and review the links on HBO and ORN. Then you can make a better informed decision. Many dentists are unfamiliar with the special care an OC patient requires. You may want to seek out another professional to do your extractions.

Best wishes!


Other HBO thread... read my post from 2/10/14 and the links


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Why take a chance? I would rather play on the side of caution and have the HBO than end up having to have a mandiblectomy sometime in the future.

best of luck.


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Buster,
I am four years out of treatment and have a tooth that is causing pain. My RO told me to leave it alone unless it becomes unbearable. He said he never recommends extraction unless the tooth is black. He said have a tooth extraction would cause more harm and I would indeed have to have HBO before and after any extraction to prevent ORN.


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I needed a tooth extraction in 2011, and all my doctors, oncologist, ENT, Oncology dentist said I needed HBOT, with the 20/10 Marx protocol. I need more extractions, actully all my teeth, are black, down to the gum line, and causing too many infections, abcesses, with different doctors now, say I need to do HBOT again, but have to wait until I'm clear of cancer, otherwise it can feed it. It depends where you received radiation, and if in the oral mouth, especially the mandible, and above 60Gy, I believe vs. someone who was only radiated in the larynx, neck for example. It's more injury, like extractions is true, that can result in ORN rather than from infections, and ifroot canal can be done it's prefable.

Good luck.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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Thanks for the response. Spoke with my Doc today and have an appointment next week. Seems to be some confussion between the dentist and doctor. It appears that I will be doing the 20/10 schedule. Thanks again.


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pet scan 011211
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peg 012100
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I had to have two wisdom teeth removed two years afar treatment ended, and I was told I had to have HBO. It was a painless pain in the you know where. I got to watch a lot of good movies, but it meant driving to long treatments every day. However, the risk of complications was great. I would do it again if I had to. -Michelle


SCC left tonsil, stage IV, HPV+, metastatic to one lymph node. Biopsy 12/23/10; tonsillectomy 1/13/11; DX 1/25/11; Peg in 1/28/11. Peg out 6/29. TX 1/31/11-3/21/11: 35 IMRT plus 3 Cisplatin. Pet-Scan 6/20/11 = CLEAR! Three years out, learning to live with the long-term side effects of radiation while reminding myself to feel blessed.
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Paula, what is 60 Gy, I had radiation to the mouth and now have to have some teeth pulled


SCC 2005 floor of mouth and neck disection
SCC 2009 partial rt tongue RAD
PEG 2009
20 HBO treatments following surgery of three teeth and 10 more HBO to follow
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Me? Gray (Gy) is the radiation dosage amount. Actually, I read another abstract that says it's above 45Gy. Your radiation oncologist knows where and how much you were radiated, but if its SCC, squamous cell carcinoma, the minimum is usually over 50Gy to kill SCC, and it also depends on how far out you are from your radiation. You many have to get clearance from the radiation oncologist. Hope this answers your question.

Good luck.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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Thank you, it has been almost 5 years out of radiation and I am so confused because everywhere I read it states don't pull them. Plus I am allergic to most antibiotics, so I am a nervous mess. I read that you have had extractions, was it after radiation and bottom teeth? Michele


SCC 2005 floor of mouth and neck disection
SCC 2009 partial rt tongue RAD
PEG 2009
20 HBO treatments following surgery of three teeth and 10 more HBO to follow
2015 Diced food diet due to weak muscles long term effects of radiation
2018 Radiation Fibrosis of the jaw and neck, vocal cord dysfunction
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