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Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 117 Likes: 1 | Designs for Health Periobiotic Toothpaste doesn't look the same as Biotene
Water� calcium glycerophosphate� xylitol� glycerin� calcium carbonate� carageenan� spearmint oil (Mentha viridis)� maltodextrin� Lactobacillus paracasei� citric acid� potassium sorbate� Yucca filamentosa powder� stevia leaf extract (Eupatorium rebaudianum bertoni).Water� calcium glycerophosphate� xylitol� glycerin� calcium carbonate� carageenan� spearmint oil (Mentha viridis)� maltodextrin� Lactobacillus paracasei� citric acid� potassium sorbate� Yucca filamentosa powder� stevia leaf extract (Eupatorium rebaudianum bertoni).
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Squamous cell carcinoma base of tongue. Lymph involvement unclear; staging placed at "2 or 3." Biopsy 4/18/2008. Treatment: IMRT every day for 7 weeks. Cisplaten once a week to sensitize cancer to radiation. Treatment ended 7/16/08. PET/CT shows no more cancer.
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Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 6 | Greetings to everyone -- I registered for this forum tonight because I spotted this thread on Biotene and Biotene alternatives in a Google search and wanted to keep up with it.
I belong to a large online community of sleep apnea patients who use various positive airway pressure (PAP) devices (all commonly referred to as "cpap"). Many of us deal with significant dry mouth issues due to the drying effects of PAP therapy, especially for those who are on very high pressure settings and those who have a tendency to mouth breathe while using PAP. We had a thread going a while back about the discontinuation of the original Biotene.
I just finished up the last tube of the original Biotene formula that I had stashed so I'd like to keep up with what you all are finding. So far I've found the Rite Aid mouth rinse retains the enzymes in their formula. I'll be happy to share anything I find out with all of you as well. Thanks for all your contributions so far.
Kudos to your community for taking a stand and discontinuing your endorsement of the Biotene line. We all feel the burn of the new formula in our mouths, maybe GSK will feel the burn in their wallets?
Best wishes to all -- kaiasgram
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Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 1 | I have phoned their product support lines and have written reviews on line, I am SO disappointed. Oral gel had contributed such a great comfort level to my day to day challenges. I will continue to correspond and post reviews. The only good thing is that I discovered this group in my pursuit of Biotene reviews! | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 117 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | | Senior Member (100+ posts)
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 117 Likes: 1 | These have enzymes, but I don't know to what level
Rite Aid Dry Mouth Wash
PURIFIED WATER, SORBITOL, XYLITOL, PROPYLENE GLYCOL, POLOXAMER 407, POLYVINYLPYRROLIDONE, SODIUM BENZOATE, BENZOIC ACID, FLAVOR, CALCIUM LACTATE, ZINC GLUCONATE, ALOE VERA, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, NATURAL ENZYMES: AMYLASE, AMYLOGLUCOSIDASE, GLUCOXIDASE, LACTOFERRIN, LYSOZYME, PAPAIN, PEPTIZYME.
Rite Aid Dry Mouth Spray
PURIFIED WATER, XYLITOL, PROPANEDIOL, CELLULOSE GUM, BENZOIC ACID, ORGANIC FLAVOR, XANTHAN GUM, ALOE VERA, ZINC GLUCONATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, PHYTIC ACID, LACTOFERRIN, LYSOZYME, GLUCOXIDASE, AMYLASE, PAPAIN, AMYLOGLUCOSIDASE, PEPTIZYME
Squamous cell carcinoma base of tongue. Lymph involvement unclear; staging placed at "2 or 3." Biopsy 4/18/2008. Treatment: IMRT every day for 7 weeks. Cisplaten once a week to sensitize cancer to radiation. Treatment ended 7/16/08. PET/CT shows no more cancer.
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Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 105 | Hi Brian
My husband Stephen uses 'bioxtra' toothpast
Active Ingredient:
Sodium Monofluorophosphate 1.14% w/w (1500 ppm fluoride ion)
Xylitol
Colostrum Extract
Potassium Thiocyanate
Glucose Oxidase
Lactoperoxidase System
Lactoferrin
Lysozyme
Stephen also used Green Beaver(green apple) directly after radiation because it didn't burn but switched to 'bioXtra' for the fluoride (also no SLS)
I also ordered 'Periosciences' hydrating antioxidant toothpaste which he did not use because I wasn't certain if a post oral cancer patient should use antioxidants daily.
You guys are Always in my thoughts, you can always reach me thru a PM.
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husband 61@diagnosis painter
6/9/13 Exophylic invasive SCC IV(ext.gingivobuccal) 3cm+ mandibular/lytic/erosion, jugular/node9mmshort-axis
17/9/13 Dx(moderately aggressive)
24/10/13 left madiblectomy, mod radical neck disct, leg flap, NGtube
2/01/14 (30 tx)rads 60gy
N2b (2nodes under jaw) (rem. in tiny nerves) (rem. 30 nodes)
Clear margin, close 2mm inner cheek
15/05/14 cellulitis
3/12/14 Chest CT Clear
27/02/15 cellulitis
8/6/15 cellulitis
10/6/15 Osteomyelitis
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Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 117 Likes: 1 | Does anyone know a good place to order Bioxtra products that will be shipped to the U.S.
Squamous cell carcinoma base of tongue. Lymph involvement unclear; staging placed at "2 or 3." Biopsy 4/18/2008. Treatment: IMRT every day for 7 weeks. Cisplaten once a week to sensitize cancer to radiation. Treatment ended 7/16/08. PET/CT shows no more cancer.
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David 2
SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Does anyone know if or when their gum will be produced again?
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 117 Likes: 1 | [quote=David2]Andrew, it shows up here on Amazon, this is a link through OCF: http://www.amazon.com/GUM-Bioxtra-M...01213284&sr=8-1&keywords=bioxtra [/quote] Thanks. I saw them. I guess I should have explained more. Every place I try to order has shipping costs that don't make sense. Usually if I buy in quantity I save on shipping cost per item. But when ordering bioxtra, all the places I've looked charge five dollars shipping for one tube, ten dollars shipping for two, etc. Usually shipping costs increase more slowly as the quantity goes up.
Squamous cell carcinoma base of tongue. Lymph involvement unclear; staging placed at "2 or 3." Biopsy 4/18/2008. Treatment: IMRT every day for 7 weeks. Cisplaten once a week to sensitize cancer to radiation. Treatment ended 7/16/08. PET/CT shows no more cancer.
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,916 Likes: 63 | I believe we are within 30-60 days of having product from the new manufacturer that will meet all of our requirements. We tried their last samples a week ago, they are in product packaging design now, and then the printing of the tubes and filling. I will keep you all updated as I hear more from them.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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