| Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Glad you're doing well MikeM. Especially glad that you didn't do the rads on top of that. Best wishes for many, many more.
Be well...but be diligent!
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 | NGK, you have spark plug initials. Thanks for your concern. My whole procedure is like yours with the TORS and NECK Dissection and because of the chat site, i am going to see the RAD DR on the 19th. i want to believe he is confident in his findings and comments on the % of Cancer returning.. Maybe because my tumor was found and removed and all surrounding tongue and lymph node tissue was perfect that i can just live on observation sessions. Another issue is that i accepted another job to start in April, so with all this going on in my life, what to I do stay where i am at or give notice and start a new gig, then what if i do get RT, how bad would that be for a new start. Decisions Decisions.
Bruce
| | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 | Thanks Mike and will get a few opinions, but my ENT cancer surgeon really sold me the first time. i appreciate the response. Why didn't you go through RT? Also how long do you think i can wavier this decision before actually deciding? my operation was on Feb 12 and my 1st RO meeting is on March 19th.
Thanks,
Bruce
Bruce
| | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 | Mamacita,
Thanks and my hospital is pretty top shelf and is a teaching hospital and when i do see the RO, i will ask for my files and research to get a second opinion. Recommend any hospitals or treatment centers in the Chicago land area?
Thanks,
Bruce
Bruce
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 | Hi Bruce, I know that the University of Chicago Cancer Center (1-855-702-8222) is very highly rated. Another option could be the Lurie Center at Northwestern (1-866-587-4322).
When you call for an appointment, the hospital will take care of obtaining copies of all the records needed (usually scans and pathology and operating reports). I know you've got an eye on the calendar and that would be the fastest approach. I was amazed to learn that some hospitals and large health care providers can even access all of your records electronically with your consent. Convenient but scary too!
Your job situation is quite a dilemma. Would the new employer provide immediate health insurance, or is there a waiting period? I think the new health care law allows up to a 90-day delay.
Really sorry you're facing all this, but glad you found this Forum.
Lynn
53 T3N2aM0 HPV+ 5/26/13 discovered painless superball-sized lymph node in neck 6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil 7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes 9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses 10/16/13 Treatment ends Dec 13 Ulcer appears at surgery site Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer! Feb 17 CT/PET Scan lights up tonsil bed & nasal cavity, docs say probably inflammation, don't panic, rescan when ulcer subsides
| | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 14 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 14 | i had a similar procedure--robotic removal of primary BOT and modified neck dissection to remove lymph node may 10 2013---my margins were clear and only one node had cancer and no extracapsulary extension---nonetheless radiation was recommended---i finished rads on august 7 ---worked full time as lawyer for all but last week of radiation and two weeks thereafter---checkup every 3 months and cancer free for 6 months now--some lingering dry mouth and taste issues from rads otherwise back to normal--i decided on radiation because i am otherwise healthy and wanted to fight when i was strong--don't let employment drive your decision--there are always jobs--good luck
T - 55 yrs old BOT - right lymph node T1N2AM0, Stage 4, SCC HPV+ Diagnosed: 4/23/13 Surgery 5/10/13, ND, BOT lesion removed Pathology report: 23 nodes taken, no cancer; clear margins; no extracap Treatment recomm: Radiation only - 30 sessions, lower dose of 60gy to start in approx a week.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 30 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 30 | timm, I'm weighing robotics vs. radiation. How did you decide to do robotics? And, how large was your primary tunor as well as the lymphs?
DX in 12/2010. Stage 4 SCC HPV+ BOT swollen lymph. I've spent the past 3 years away from medical treatments. Instead I've focused on good nutrition, active exercise, singing, laughing, oral exercises and such. I've had neither pain nor discomfort. But I haven't been able to kill the cancer. So, I'm now considering robotic surgery and/or radiation.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 42 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 42 | Bruce, I think you are doing fine on the timeline.. I recall my doctors guidelines was to start Rads within about 6 weeks of surgery. Similar to you, the surgeon was exceptional, I could tell from his knowledge, experience, honesty, etc.. He was confident of the surgery outcome. He initially assumed I would complete radiation. After interviewing the first RO I was disappointed in the lack of 'alternatives' discussion, if I hadn't read the NCCN guidelines they might have skipped the discussion. Only after requesting additional opinions, and getting percentages similar to yours, was I able to work to a decision. The main reason I took the higher risk route was my existing oral condition. I didn't have the gift of naturally good teeth, I had just done periodontal work, and some gum restoration, and I want to do a bit more. It seemed like rads might be just enough to cost me my teeth within a few years, I really wanted to keep them much longer if possible. The surgeon confirmed he would do the regular screening for any sign of reoccurance, we met every 6 weeks for past 2 years, now it is every 10 weeks. He is very thorough with a scope down in the primary tumor area, as well as externally around neck and shoulders. As i look back 2 years it's hard to really sense if it was a reasonable trade off or somewhat short sighted. Mike
Nov2011Tonsil Cancer Stage3 T1N1 HPV+, Non-smoker, slight drinker Dec2011 Radical Tonsilectomy (TORS), Jan2012 Neck Disection areas 2,3,4 Feb2012 Opinions from 5 RO's decision for No Rads/No Chemo Jan2013 all clear at 1 year , continue regular check-ups Jan2014 all clear at 2 years, less frequent check-ups Jan2015 all clear at 3 years, MRI, chest x-ray, blood work all good | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 28 | Mike,
Thanks i will going the observation route starting in Mid April and will be taking a new job too. Just curious... since i sort of latched on to your story and you are the only one that responded with the No Rads decision, have you changed or modified your diet in any way. i.e. vitamins, supplements, more fish etc.
Bruce
Bruce
| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 269 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 269 | Hey bruce! Glad you were able to make a decision. Be well. I'm rooting for you!
Nancy (53 at dx) Metastatic SCC. Stage III. HPV positive with occult primary. N1, no ecs 7/1/11 - L-Selective neck dissection. Tonsillectomy. All clean. No rad, no chemo. 5/29/13 - Found primary 7/3/13 - TORS 7/8/13 - Emergency Surgery/Blood vessel burst in throat 8/9/13 - Peg in 9/3/13 - Radiation starts 30 IMRT, 60gy BOT, 56gy both sides of neck 10/14/13 - Radiation ended! 11/12/13 - PEG out!
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