| Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 | Hi, I've been trying to keep a blog but this is a better forum for pain issues. I'm now two weeks from mandibulectomy etc. Very little pain in hospital but just as I left and over last 5 days there's been a miserable aching plus sore throat.It became bad enough to go to GP on Sunday. From her I got some relief but in stingy doses and I was soon back in trouble. On the pain scale it was possibly 5 but whatever, it took away my readiness to talk and eat and do my jaw exercises for my trismus. Tramadol did not work at all and neither did low doses of Oxynorm or Oxycontin. Rang hospital and saw ENT registrar who gave me stronger doses of codeine and Oxynorm as well as Ibuprufen. To cut a long story short the stronger doses of the old drugs together with paracetamol have done the trick. I don't really need the Oxy. Just writing this to share the info. Last time I had no pain on discharge from hospital but this time with the jaw hurting and surgery on top of previous surgery I'm feeling weird from neck up on left side. Love to all Maureen
1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol. September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision. October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT. February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Sorry to hear you are hurting. Its a HUGE surgery you have gone thru. Im actually surprised at how well you are doing with everything.
One medication that worked very well for me was gabapentin. Im not 100% sure of the spelling but this medication will help (your doc will know what it is), its for nerve pain. This was originally used to help control seizures but it works very well on nerve pain. It even comes in liquid form which will be much easier for you to take.
Best wishes!
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 | Thanks Christine. You did spell it right and what's more it has the same name in NZ. We don't think my pain is nerve pain because it's more of an ache but Gabapentin sounds like a good one to have up my sleeve. And I'm having a good day today. Pain is being kept at bay and swelling is going down, albeit very slowly. I ventured out to the local shops on foot and weathered the questions and sympathy.
Yes, the recovery has been rapid apart from the swelling and pain. I have lots of energy ... Still don't have the pathology results. Might have to wait a week or two which suits me. I need to be in a good state to face them and the radiotherapy.
Haven't got a definitive answer on the size of the tumour yet - have to have that discussion. Can say that the arm flap/scar is no bigger than last time (tongue) in spite of what surgeon said. Told him I was in no hurry to talk about pathology and RT. From somewhere I have gleaned the philosophy that I'm on the recovery train at the moment and don't want to get off it till I've reached my destination in a couple of weeks.
I was warned that they might not have clear margins (they think they do), there might need to be a little bit more surgery or just radiotherapy. But somehow I didn't fret about that, just thought that I need to get through this step first. And the surgeon seemed very happy with my progress so I'll bask in that for a while:)
1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol. September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision. October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT. February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | That's great you are doing so well and I respect the need to heal completely. But don't let denial derail you. I know it's not something you want to discuss or deal with at the moment and you are likely facing 5-6 weeks of recovery before you begin any further treatment, but waiting to get the results too long can actually prolong the process as I am sure you know. Particularly if they need to do another surgery. Do you really want to feel better and then have to go through it all again? Plus knowing where you are headed treatment wise will likely cause you to worry but also force you to push them into moving quickly. At this point waiting as you know can be a bad thing. Don't want to put a damper on how you are feeling hon, but at the same time this cancer can move quickly... hugs and really glad you're doing good. harness that and go with it.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Alpaca, I'm glad to hear you are doing so well. I would imagine after such a surgery, it is a good feeling to see and feel the improvement. Only you know where you want to be, physically and emotionally, as you and your medical team formulate a plan.
Enjoy every day and remember, a day with worry is a day lost. It sounds easy on paper, but it's much tougher in real life.
Best wishes you find some sunshine to bask in every day!
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 | Thanks Cheryl. I agree with you in principle but it felt right to pull myself up from the pits of post operative wretchedness before thinking of the more distant future. My surgeon doesn't pull any punches. I've just told him I'm fine to wait for the pathology results before he tells me how bad/not so bad it is. He doesn't know himself yet. It's now two weeks since the op and I know they can take three weeks ... I hope to see him just after that three week mark. I'm going to prepare myself for the meeting ... more surgery would be devastating ... I'm going to have to dig deep to face that possibility. As for RT I've researched that tentatively: sounds bad but at least it doesn't require hospitalization. But thanks for your words. Makes me realise that I need to gird my loins for the next step, especially now I'm feeling better.
Last edited by ChristineB; 03-05-2014 01:03 PM. Reason: fixed principle
1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol. September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision. October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT. February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 | Alpaca, you are doing wonderfully! 2 weeks post-op, and you're already hitting the shops? Wow. And I admire the fact that you're managing your outlook with such discipline. Learning to live with some unknowns and uncertainties is part of adapting to life with/after cancer, and you've got it down. That's a skill I'm struggling with personally.
Do you by chance raise alpacas?
53 T3N2aM0 HPV+ 5/26/13 discovered painless superball-sized lymph node in neck 6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil 7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes 9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses 10/16/13 Treatment ends Dec 13 Ulcer appears at surgery site Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer! Feb 17 CT/PET Scan lights up tonsil bed & nasal cavity, docs say probably inflammation, don't panic, rescan when ulcer subsides
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "OCF Down Under, Kiwi" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 644 Likes: 1 | I fell in love with alpacas some years ago but don't have any myself:(
1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol. September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision. October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT. February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 | I adore alpacas! I think it's the eyelashes. We've even vacationed at a bed and breakfast on a llama/alpaca farm. We've talked about raising them but it's really just a pipe dream......
53 T3N2aM0 HPV+ 5/26/13 discovered painless superball-sized lymph node in neck 6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil 7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes 9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses 10/16/13 Treatment ends Dec 13 Ulcer appears at surgery site Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer! Feb 17 CT/PET Scan lights up tonsil bed & nasal cavity, docs say probably inflammation, don't panic, rescan when ulcer subsides
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