| Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 7 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 7 | We are so confused about dental care. My husbands treatment ended July 3, we were never told about fluoride trays or prescription fluoride toothpaste and in October I found this website, so I started inquiring of his Drs about it. They were clueless and our insurance has denied a referral to a oncologist dentist. So he went to his regular dentist and he just cleaned his teeth and gave him some prescription fluoride toothpaste to use at night. Has anyone else encountered this problem and how important are fluoride trays. Is there research info on this that we could show our Dr's? We are in Oklahoma, US. We thought we were being treated at a top cancer center in OK, but now we wonder?
Wife of stage 3 tonsil cancer patient. Diagnosed 4/15/13. 3 Cisplatin, 35 rad. ended 7/3/13
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | You cant go back and change what has already been done. Its rare that a patient does rads without having dental flouride trays. Here are some links to the main OCF pages where they discuss dental issues. There are other links within these pages that may also help. You may also want to go thru the NCI Guidelines and see if anything is written there. Pre Treatment Dental Dental Professionals ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I had heard of dental trays, prescription fluoride prior to my radiation in 2011, and went to a regular dentist who said he'll take care of me. I had one or two extractions, a root canal and two fillings, and was given chlohexidine mouth rinse. I was fine with this, having a very bad experience from chemo a year earlier, so I didn't push, didnt really know better or really want high doses of fluoride hearing it causes cancer, plus my near death experience with other drugs/chemo I had at a top NYC CCC before that, so I never went back to them, and formed my own team of doctors, radiation and medical oncologist, Dentist, etc. A year after radiation, my teeth started to deminerlize, two years out most are cracked, broken, down to the gum line. I'm back to another CCC, seeing the dental oncologist for teeth removal, hyperbaric chamber. It may have happened anyway, as the chemo had caused worse dry mouth, mucocitis than radiation did, so may have been compromised already, but in retrospect, I wish I did go to a dental oncologist, gitten the dental trays, prescription fluoride.
You still can get dental trays, prescription fluoride, as some doctors start after Treatment, some before. There is also remineralization paste you can get from a dentist to help with demineralization, white spots no teeth.
Good luck.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | My regular dentist SEVEN YEARS AGO told me I had to have fluoride trays and he made them and I started using them 1 month pre Tx and continued almost every nite until 5 years POST Tx. I had no teeth or gum issues pre Tx and I have had none since.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Agree with David. I got the same advice and now nearly 5 years out I'm using them every night. I also get my teeth cleaned every 4 months. No problems.
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | I had inquired about the trays with my dentist and he recommended a fluoride rinse to be used twice a day along with brushing/flossing etc.
I had an extraction prior as well as a deep cleaning. Now, I go every three months for a cleaning (we'll go to every 4 months after a year). So far, 7 months post Tx, no issues.
Positive thoughts and prayers
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
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