Before the holidays, I searched several stores and did find several tubes of the 'older formula' on some store shelves (smaller Mom/Pop type stores). Some had both new and old and it was easy to compare the formulas and even the packaging. There is a Facebook page at: Facebook - Biotene. Not sure if we can repost those pictures here, so I am only including the link.

Regards,
Nancy

I looked up the ingredients in the 'BioXtra' products and they sound helpful for oral hygiene and for maintaining a moist mouth.

Perioextra also eludes to the same benefits but I did not find their list of ingredients directly on their site.

My husband will soon need a less irritating toothpaste and a moisturizing gel, from what I have read on this post BioExtra seams like the best option for now. Any experience with this product or any other suggestions are welcome.

So glad I found out about the downgrade in bioteen ingredients before buying the product. I have been informing the staff at the hospital about the change as they are unaware. I will keep them informed of better options so they can refer these to their patients.

You guys Rock! Sophie

Thanks, Sophie. There seem to be a few suppliers of Bioextra on Amazon and I'm curious about it. I'll flag the page and hope someone who's used it weighs in with an opinion. If I don't hear anything I'll probably go ahead and order a tube when my current stock of old Biotene runs out in the next month.

And of course I'll be using my OCF link when I do, as always.

If you go to pubmed you can find research on bioxtra and other products. Just type the word into the search feature.

Thanks for that, Andrew. There appear to be a handful of small studies and BioXtra fares well. In one it even scores higher than Biotene, which I'll assume was the previous formula since the study was done a few years ago.

Here are my recent PBF products. It looks to my untrained eye like the enzyme ingredients are still included. But I do not known how much.

Biotene PBF Oral Rinse
Purified Water, Propylene Glycol,Xylitol,Hydrogenated Starch Hydrolysate, Poloxamer 407, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Sodium Benzoate, Flavor, Benzoic Acid, Mutanase, Disodium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Zinc Gluconate, Lactoferrin, Lysozyme, Lactoperoxidase, Potassium Thiocynate, Aloe Vera Gel, Calcium Lactate, Glucose Oxidase, Dextranase. Contains milk and egg derivatives

Biotene PBF Toothpaste
Active Ingredients: Sodium Monofluorophosphate (0.14% w/v Fluoride Ion)

Inactive Ingredients: Sorbitol, Glycerin, Water, Silica, Xylitol, Hydrated Silica, Isoceteth-20, Poloxamer 188, Cellulose Gum, Flavor, Sodium Benzoate, Mutanase, Lactoperoxidase, Potassium Thiocyanate, Glucose Oxidase, Mica, Titanium Dioxide, Lysozyme, Lactoferrin, Dextranase, Chlorophyllin-Copper Complex, Calcium Lactate. Contains milk and egg derivatives.

Just a quick update. The company that is making a prototype paste based on OCF's recommendations is going to have sample to us next week. This is just a first go around, but the groundwork that we laid with them was pretty specific. Good fluoride delivery vehicle, good antibacterial qualities, mild flavor, and a tissue soothing formula given how tender all of our soft tissues are. I optimistic that if they get this nailed we could have a product in 90 days.

Re the NEW Biotene PBF, they took out 3 of the 4 enzymes so they could still call it an enzyme product, and kept the cheapest one. Also the enzymes only work if all four are there together, as they are synergistic.

Awesome news, Brian! You take care of us in so many different ways. Not just us, but you are taking care of the company making the prototype paste by helping them to make their product better!

Thank you Brian.

Awesome, Brian! (or maybe, 'Awesome Brian!').