I have a number of toothpaste tubes and some mouthwash that I bought a while ago. When was the formula changed? How do I tell if the supply I have is the "old" (better) formula or the "new" (worthless) one? Anyone know what ingredients were in the old formula?

take your product to a store and compare it to the ones currently sold. My older toothpaste tube was DRASTICALLY different from the one I just bought.

Disturbing... but not unusual.

Since I'm one of the OCF walk organizers, we received an email last week from OCF about this. In some follow-up questions someone asked when the change was made and the response was within the past 2 months.

From what I can recall, the Biotene toothpaste I have was bought in June (local drug store), so I'm assuming it is OK. I recall that I first tried to order it on-line from Amazon and there was a message to the effect that due to quality issues the item wasn't available at this time (which leads me to believe the change happened more than 2 months ago).

I have the "gentle mint gel" which has Sodium Monofluorophosphate (0.14% w/v fluoride ion) as it only active ingredient. Inactive ingredients include sorbitol, glycerin, water, silica, xylitol, hydrated silica ... ending with "Contains mild and egg derivatives." Sounds yummy!

This matches the ingredients on the "gentle mint gel" I found in the same local drug store today.

They also had the "fresh mint original" flavor which had Sodium Fluoride (0.15% w/v fluoride ion) as its only active ingredient. The inactive ingredients were different and less of them.

I didn't expect the two flavors to have such different ingredients, so perhaps one is the "old" version and one is the "new"? If the formula was only changed 2 months ago, it could be that the store still has some "old" version in stock.

I used to buy the PBF version of both the mouthwash and toothpaste, but haven't been able to find that lately so I bought the non-PBF version.

I shared this information with a number of local OC survivors who used Biotene for years (and also have a supply at home). In Brian's post he indicated he would follow-up with more details on the ingredients and the changes. Since I'm not a chemist, a detailed list of ingredients isn't necessary, I'm just looking for an easy way to tell the "good" from the "bad" and perhaps find some of the "good" still in a local store.

At a SPOHNC meeting, this was brought up in May or June.

Well I tried the new toothpaste and first thing I noticed was it was much less dense than the former. Then brushing with it felt like I was using a really cheap weak toothpaste if that makes sense?

I am pretty new here, and have been using Biotene stuff for only a bit over a month. After reading all this here, I went to Amazon and among various reviews, found lists of ingredients, both new and old versions, for the toothpaste and PBF mouthwash (green bottle). Not sure if I am allowed to copy/paste that here, but didn't take me more than 10 minutes to find it there.
Armed with those lists, I went to my local pharmacy and found that the products on the shelves were mix of old and new formulas. Interestingly, all the new formulas had an added red line on the front saying "new and improved pH balance". Needless to say, I stocked up on the old versions.
Also, I tried to by their dry mouth spray, which I guessed would be old formula based on ingredients (did not have old/new formula to compare). I was unable too, as I was told at the checkout that the product was recalled.

Somewhat related, I used ACT dry mouth lozenges, with Xylitol, a few times. Once I did just before seeing the doctor, and got called in, so I wanted to take it out, and not wanting to waste it, I just put it in my water bottle, which slowly dissolved it, turning it light blue. I sipped on it the rest of the day, and it kept my mouth moist, fresher much longer than anything.

Ambra,

If you still have the information from Amazon, can you send to me in a personal message (PM)? I did try looking on Amazon for that information, and wasn't able to find it (don't really know how to search their website for that type info).

Thanks!

I sure am glad this crazy computerr finally let me go online. I was wondering about the difference ib Biotene products lately. I surre am grateful for Brians post I just read. I guess it's time IO forget Biotene and check out some other companies. Due for refills on most products and time to go looking. Thanks Brain for your diligent work.