| Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 | I had a lot of lymph and fibrosis start to really set in after my ND on 9/11. and during that ND I had my left tonsil out. Well the pressure got to be too much and I had a bad hemmorage from tonsil bed. I was taken by ambulance to the ER. where they took me into surgery to coterize the wound.It seems as if the lymph fluid that was clogging me up had drained away with all the blood from the hemmorage. And my neck was a lot loser. well 7 days after ER had stopped the bleeding. And the lymph is back almost as bad as it was the last time right before the bleeding! And I am worried that I will have a reccuance of the bleeding due to the pressure being back.(I have low platelets that make it easier for me to bleed in the first place.) I don't want to start over again. I am afraid to move. I think I may have posted this before but not sure. (pain meds). I was thinking that they could give me some platlets to get me through the healing process. I lost over five pounds of blood last time. Oh and I think this is to PaulB. 33 out of 36 were indeed found to be cancerous. I verified it. My prognosis is not good at all no more surgery is possible. No more radiation is possible. so that leaves Med. ONC. And citplatsin is out due to hiv/aids. so they have offered me Erbitux again. but this would be in their words more palitive approach. buying time. until some mirical comes up. WE are all on the lookout for studies. I just want to be out of the clear of this looming bleeding situation so I can get on with the rest of my life. And find something that is curative. sorry for all the typos Shawn U
. Radio/Erbitex:(35/6.) .6/13 RSSC with met.to left neck.9/11/13 MND with left tonsil removal.9/18/13 margins failed, .Dx Terminal. 10/22/13 Dx.StageIII Lymphedema. Carboplatin/Taxol, cancer progression,WECF 3/14/2014 given 2 weeks, 3 maybe. All the veins in my head are slowly leakinging due to Ehlers Danlos syndrome. lucky thing is that my spinal fluid leaking out my nose is slowing the build up of pressure in my huge, huge head. you would not believe.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 9 Member | Member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 9 | I am not a medical person, but some members of my ITP group on facebook sometimes have their low platelets treated with IV Immunoglobulin, or with Rituximab. Might be worth asking about. I sure hope your bleeding situation clears up very soon. Sending lots of positive thoughts your way!
Wife/Caregiver 6/5 ENT visit 6/11 FNA biopsy on lymph node 6/13 DX T2N2b stage 4 SCC on right tonsil metastasis to lymph nodes on right side 7/8 first chemo using Cetuximab 8/20 radiation oncologist initial visit 8/21 dental clearance Cisplatin and Radiation starting Sept 9 2nd Cisplatin Oct 1 Radiation completed 10/24 | | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 | Thank you lotsacats (love the name). And I will most def. look into the leads you gave me. I will be thinking of you at night when I do my cancer get outta here meditations. I hope that Radiation and Cisplatin go as smooth as possible. Shawn U.
. Radio/Erbitex:(35/6.) .6/13 RSSC with met.to left neck.9/11/13 MND with left tonsil removal.9/18/13 margins failed, .Dx Terminal. 10/22/13 Dx.StageIII Lymphedema. Carboplatin/Taxol, cancer progression,WECF 3/14/2014 given 2 weeks, 3 maybe. All the veins in my head are slowly leakinging due to Ehlers Danlos syndrome. lucky thing is that my spinal fluid leaking out my nose is slowing the build up of pressure in my huge, huge head. you would not believe.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Thank you for clarifying that, Shawn. It is a large number of nodes involved, which is not usually a good indicator, but maybe more importantly is there was no ECE, extrascapsular extension, and these nodes were taken out with clear margins. It also may depend on where the lymph's were in the lymph chain, and their size, for additional prognostic factors, so even though there were many involved, it still may be ok, as opposed to one with ECE, positive margins, low in the lymph chain.
Although each case is different, I know several oropharyngeal cancer patients, tonsil, base of tingue, with hiv positive status that had full dose chemo, radiation, and treatment again for recurrences with surgery, chemoradiation. Maybe you should get a 2nd opinion, and from one who is more familiar with this dual status. As mentioned, there maybe other treatment options available, even with your conditions, and depends on the experience of the doctor, so what one may not treat, another may be able to, and positive margins doesn't necessarily mean cancer will return, but may 30-50% of the time.
Probably right now you may want to get over this current hurdle, which is still early in the recovery phase. Tonsil surgery in adults can be complicated for many, and have unusual bleeding, compounded by your low platelets. Platelets have a life span of 4-5 days, and if low enough, may give you platelet transfusion, medications. I have low Hemaglobin, and get transfusions or epogen shots if low enough, and both these are produced in the bone marrow, which can be compromised from cancer treatment, compounded by your status.
For all your concerns, maybe ask the doctor to clarify them, adress any issues, to help. Good luck.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 | Oh Shawn, I am so sorry that you are going through all this, and have the added worries of HIV, bleeding -- as if cancer weren't enough! No wonder you feel like you can't move. You will feel better when you do, though.
Love hearing that you meditate, I do too.
Hugs,
Mama
53 T3N2aM0 HPV+ 5/26/13 discovered painless superball-sized lymph node in neck 6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil 7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes 9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses 10/16/13 Treatment ends Dec 13 Ulcer appears at surgery site Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer! Feb 17 CT/PET Scan lights up tonsil bed & nasal cavity, docs say probably inflammation, don't panic, rescan when ulcer subsides
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 | Hey paulB, I am going to ask for a platelet infusion. They are usually reluctant in giving them except in emergencies. Due to the fact that the more you get the less effective and shorter duration of increased platelet counts. But I would call this a possible emergency. I would think that my doctors would want to avoid another bleed. As it is like starting the healing process all over again. it has been 8 days since the last bleed and I can feel the pain of the scabs starting to come off. I am constantly drinking ice cold water to try to constrict the blood vessels. and to keep the scabs in place as long as I can. I feel like my eyeballs are floating and urinate only the clearest of pee. so I am most def. not dehydrated. But I must eat more. My oral health is suffering, as I am afraid to really get in there to brush properly. Thank you for your response. Are you ready for another RND? Best of luck with that. you are directly in the path of my positive meditation against the beast! take care...Shawn U.
. Radio/Erbitex:(35/6.) .6/13 RSSC with met.to left neck.9/11/13 MND with left tonsil removal.9/18/13 margins failed, .Dx Terminal. 10/22/13 Dx.StageIII Lymphedema. Carboplatin/Taxol, cancer progression,WECF 3/14/2014 given 2 weeks, 3 maybe. All the veins in my head are slowly leakinging due to Ehlers Danlos syndrome. lucky thing is that my spinal fluid leaking out my nose is slowing the build up of pressure in my huge, huge head. you would not believe.
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 144 | Thank you for the kind words Mama, and I love hugs so right back atcha! you are in my meditation exercises. Shawn U.
. Radio/Erbitex:(35/6.) .6/13 RSSC with met.to left neck.9/11/13 MND with left tonsil removal.9/18/13 margins failed, .Dx Terminal. 10/22/13 Dx.StageIII Lymphedema. Carboplatin/Taxol, cancer progression,WECF 3/14/2014 given 2 weeks, 3 maybe. All the veins in my head are slowly leakinging due to Ehlers Danlos syndrome. lucky thing is that my spinal fluid leaking out my nose is slowing the build up of pressure in my huge, huge head. you would not believe.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Ready or not, but wish it was sooner than later. Twice last year, before my surgeries, I developed two more recurrences within a month of scanning, but were dealt with at the scheduled surgery, how lucky is that. Things don't move fast here like everything else. Surgery takes a month or more after diagnosis. My pet was suspicious back on August 12th, and not having surgery until October 16th leaving two months for confirmed cancer to grow.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
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