| Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | Just a question to gauge recovery...
I have some lymphedema. Nothing terrible but enough to cause discomfort. Obviously it gets worse after a nights sleep because I'm in a prone position (can't sleep sitting up).
On average, when did it finally improve for you veterans on the board?
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | About a year with much lymphatic massage now I am normal  relatively speaking. 
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I had so many surgeries, treatments, never really, but it did improve, but not totally. It is worse again with my gum/tooth infection/abscess. I also believe certain foods, spices, medications effects them, even alcohol, but my limit is one beer, and could be the salivary gland also. I don't know how many lymph's I have left with three neck dissections, but there could be a few rebels still around, and the H&N have about 300 lymph nodes, and everyone is different in the amount, and location of them. It also depends on the type of neck dissections, how many levels removed like a selective neck dissection, a modified radical neck dissection or radical neck dissection, there are a few more, not often mentioned, like a limited neck dissection, others, that may be used interchangeably.
I have a sleepimatc type bed, which head and feet raise, and that helps a lot, and notice a difference between that and a flat bed. They also have compression bandages for the head, around the chin, jaw, that helps with lymph drainage. If it helps keeping the mouth closed, which photo apppears, that may also help with dry mouth since most moisture escapes when sleeping with the mouth open.
As mentioned, lymphatic drainage massage, acupuncture, may help, as well as light exercise like walking, swimming, swinging the arms above heart level, a trampoline, even sweating, sauna, steam room get the lymph's flowing, but ask your doctor.
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | I have the custom made wraps (look like old fashioned tooth ache wraps) that the therapist made while I was in treatment. One is plain and the other has additional foam pieces to help stimulate the fluid to drain. I should pull them out and try sleeping with them. Like I said, it's not bad. Even my team said it's not bad but it is quite uncomfortable at times. I have heard it's about a year or so before the body finds alternative pathways but I'd like to hear it from the horses mouth so to speak  "T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 | Yes, I agree on the 12 month mark. That's about the time it has taken for Kris's lymphoedema to become negligible. He did not have any massage or wear the pressure garments. He did have 2 neck dissections along with his surgery etc. Tammy
Caregiver/advocate to Husband Kris age 59@ diagnosis DX Dec '10 SCC BOT T4aN2bM0 HPV+ve.Cisplatin x3 35 IMRT. PET 6/11 clear. R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED Feb '12 Ca back.. 3/8/12 total glossectomy/laryngectomy/bilat neck dissection/partial pharyngectomy etc. clear margins. All nodes negative for disease. PEG in. March 2017 - 5 years disease free. Woohoo!
| | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 17 Member | Member Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 17 | I am about a year out of my neck dissection and I still have mine. I am having massage therapy and it is helping...I also have the wraps that my therapist made for me. My onocologist said it could take up to 2 years to go away....
DX-JUNE 22, 2012 STAGE..III HNC--TONGUE HPV--QUESTIONABLE SURGERY...JULY 17TH, 2012 40% OF TONGUE REMOVED FREE FLAP FROM MY LEFT FORE ARM (DIDN'T WORK) RND RT XERSOTOMIA
VERY BLESSED
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