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A Speech Pathologist was part of my team at Johns Hopkins. I'm scheduled for a swallowing evaluation in August. She's been great. I have swallowing exercises that I do (should do more but I do get them in for the most part).
If they haven't referred you then I would definitely ask.
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57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Look you need calories and hydration or everything will go south fast. Have you considered a nasal tube?
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Speech and swallow therapist, also called speech language pathologist, usually works with the ENT, and are often in the same department, mine are. You need to do exercises, there are about 15 of them. There is also devises therabyte, and dynasplint (sp) that helps improve mouth opening or just using the old wooden tongue depressors. It's very important to do these mouth opening exercises the first 3 months, otherwise there is little that may be helpful after that when fibrosis sets in.
iPad, and maybe other devises, have an apps called iswallow. It's geared to be used in conjunction with a therapist, but you can access the videos to see them. If you look at iswallow here, a member made a link to rehabilitative exercises, on 1/13/13 on a post.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Rosemary, my husband thought he was swallowing six teaspoons of supplement a day, but after three days, we realized that it was all coming back up. He choked whenever he tried to swallow anything. At that point, we asked for a referral for the swallowing assessment which showed that the liquids were pooling just before his esophagus and would not go down. He has now got a referral to a gastroenterologist who does esophagus dilations and who will be investigating what is causing the blockage. Talk to your RO now about these referrals. If a lot of choking goes on, it really may be indicative of aspiration.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | I would just like to add that the speech and language pathologist looks at the swallowing muscles and other compensatory strategies, but it is not her "area" if the problem is lower down. Our SLP at the swallowing assessment actually told us that there was nothing more she could do for us. If it is blockage at the esophagus, your best bet would be a gastroenterologist.
Push your doctors for a referral, if the blockage is caused by scarring, then the longer the wait is, the harder it will be to deal with it.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 | Ok, Monday morn I will be calling the ENT since I don't have another appointment with him until August 27th. David, I have a PEG. I stopped using it because I was doing pretty good, I had went a whole week and gained back one pound. That is what is confusing, I don't understand why I am going backwards with my swallowing. It seems 2 weeks ago it was difficult but I could swallow with no fluids, 1 week ago I had to drink fluids to get food down, the last few days I choke on every bite. I really feel like I am going backwards in my recovery, more pain, more difficulties swallowing, less sleep, and I am loosing weight again. Maybe I pushed it to hard but I really want that PEG out! I kind of feel like its a rope holding me down and when it is removed I will be free again. I have also been doing yard work again, mowing an acre and half, weed eating, trimming bushes and cutting down some hedges. Is it to soon for all of this? Am I doing more harm than good? I have been spending a couple hours out in the yard a few days a week for the last few weeks. Also back to work about 30 hours a week. I was tired afterwards but I felt OK, felt good to get off my butt. This week everything just went backwards. I ache, I am exhausted, I don't understand.
AGE 38 10-2012 thru 3-2012 swollen lymph node,painful jaw and ear,2 antibiotics,X-ray,CAT scan,needle biopsy,scope, no answers 3-4-13 tonsillectomy and selective neck dissection, DX R tonsil SCC,METS to 1 lymph node,BOT,HPV+, stage IV TX 35 RAD,3 chemo cisplatin/Taxol started 4-8-13 rad end 5-29-13
| | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 | P.S Thanks for all the input, I prob don't speak to my docs as much as I should but sad to say 2 of them always seem so busy I don't want to bother them, 1 of them albeit very helpful, I have only seen once since surgery, and the other one doesn't listen to me he just barks at me what I should be doing without listening to my reasons I am having problems doing it. Sad to say I feel like I have learned more and got better advice from this forum.
AGE 38 10-2012 thru 3-2012 swollen lymph node,painful jaw and ear,2 antibiotics,X-ray,CAT scan,needle biopsy,scope, no answers 3-4-13 tonsillectomy and selective neck dissection, DX R tonsil SCC,METS to 1 lymph node,BOT,HPV+, stage IV TX 35 RAD,3 chemo cisplatin/Taxol started 4-8-13 rad end 5-29-13
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Don't feel bad, most feel the same way about their doctors not spending enough time with them, or not getting a good enough explanation. You can take notes, but that can disrupt the continuity of the conversation. I think it's better to write down the answers to your wriiten questions, as soon as you leave the office. The same with recording the physician, with permission. He or she may answer guardingly, and may not get an honest answer for lack of better words, and may not trust you, I wouldn't. You could bring another person who can take notes instead.
The yard work may be a bit much. Bedsides being strenuous, there is the allergies, and even risk of infection from the various organisms, with a compromised immune system, such as cancer, so wear gloves, face mask when doing.
They don't say this is a roller coaster ride for nothing. You will have ups and downs, and set backs. I'm 3.8 years from diagnosis, and have several issues, well, maybe more than several, but can't complain.
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10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | Rosy - you have gotten such great advice above. I just want to put my 2 cents worth in about busy doctors: I had some surgery last year unrelated to cancer but surgery which required the attention of two very busy doctors and some robotic surgery. When I saw how busy especially one of them was with a waiting room filled to capacity, I decided the only way I was going to get all my questions answered was to type out all the questions I had. With one doctor, I sent a FAX to his office in the evening and the next morning I got a personal call from him. He answered every one of my questions and told me he wished all his patients could do the same. The second doctor was also sent a FAX in which I also suggested I would be happy to receive a reply from the secretary or anyone in the office. The next day I received a reply from his secretary that answered all my questions. With each of the doctors, whenever I had an appointment, I carried two copies with me of all my questions with spaces in between the questions so that I could give them one copy and follow along on my copy, writing down his answers. The first doctor just took a pen and wrote down what he was telling me on his copy and gave that back to me! Rosy - Your health is very important and you deserve to get ALL your questions answered. Make copies of all your questions for each and every doctor so they all know where you are coming from. Keep pushing for answers and let us know what's happening.
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
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