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I was recently diagnosed with stage IVA SCC with an tonsil origin. I'm starting concurrent radiation (IMRT) + chemo (cisplatin) next week. Cancer has spread from the tonsil down to the back of the tongue and the same side lymph node. Ready to get started, I feel that the waiting is the hardest part. The other issue was that there were so many different opinions on my treatment plan. Some doctors recommended surgery with radiation (but no chemo). Others recommended radiation (some both sides of neck, some only one side of neck) with chemo. After a PET, my cancer center of choice recommended against surgery due to potential issues with the tonsil margins, which made it easier to get the ball rolling.

I'm enrolled in a clinical trial using a special type of cyclotron for hypoxic cell detection in HPV+ cancers, with the potential for radiation deescalation if there are no hypoxic cells (with a small neck dissection/lymph note check up if deescalated.)

HPV status is questionable. A recent FNA was not positive for HPV, but I had a core biopsy to diagnose the cancer, so that is being tested currently. Hoping for good news from the HPV stains in the next few days as docs have mentioned they have seen FNA fail to detect HPV because smaller scope of cells extracted. My bio (non-smoker except wedding cigars, social drinking), young age (25), athletic, and the look of the cancer cells on tongue (? - mentioned by the 1 surgeon who saw the cancer on the tongue as well) all supported a HPV diagnosis. All of the doctors have said they are almost certain its HPV, with the caveat that I'm very young to have an HPV viral infection which results in cancer.

All the information I've read here, both on the site and the forum, have been very helpful. Thanks everyone for your contributions. I'm sure I'll have more questions as we get down to business.

Been eating like a champ, now its time to kick some cancer butt.


Andrew
age 25

early 10/12 - enlarged lymph node area
01/13 SCC of L tonsil, L BOT, 2 L lymph nodes
stage IVa, T2N2bM0, HPV+

2/13 2 doses cisplatin big bag, 2 doses weekly cisplatin + 35x IMRT
4/13 TX finished
7/13 PET/CT - NED!
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Welcome to OCF, Andrew! So sorry to hear you are a cancer patient at the young age of 25. You are only a little older than my son.

I would be very surprised if the HPV status came back negative. Please update us when you find out.

Best wishes with everything you are facing. We will help you thru this with info and support.

Good luck!!!


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
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Sorry you have to come here, but welcome. As you were probably told, HPV cancer has a better response to chemoradiation, and prognosis, so in this case it's good if it does come back positive, and almost always involves the tonsil, and base of tongue. The size of the tumor, in the TNM grading, and the thickness of the tumor also helps determine the extent of treatment. The tonsil, BOT have propensity to metastasize due to the high lymphatics, and sometimes bilaterally, so that's why some may want both sides radiated, and each institution may have different treatments, as well as the doctors. Tumor Hypoxia, from angeogeneis, others, is an area of interest these days, and may cause radiation and chemo resistance. This is the first I'm reading in a blog of someone being tested. What hospital in NYC? I go to Mt. Sinai and Beth Israel in NYC.

Good luck with everything.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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Welcome... very sorry you're here - It sounds on paper like HPV but you are very young for that type of cancer. Hopefully it is - just because the treatment generally has a better response. If it isn't HPV then I would agree with having both sides radiated and possibly surgery. Just because of the amount of involvement and your age. Take care, and read I'm on treatment if you can.


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Weclome aboard the bus Andrew.

You are really young and fit so very good for making best of any treatment plan you have. don


Don
Male, 57 - Great health except C
Dec '12
DX: BOT SCC T2N2bMx, Stage 4a, HPV+, multiple nodes
1 tooth out
Jan '13
2nd tooth out
Tumor Board -induction TPF (3 cycles), seq CRT
4-6/2013
CRT 70gr 2x35, weekly carbo150
ended 5/29,6/4
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Andrew, sorry that you have to come on this roller coaster ride. Please know that you are among friends here, so feel free to come back again and again to vent, ask questions or just read about others' experiences. Now is the time to eat, eat and eat. Once you start treatment, you will not be able to eat your favorite foods for a while. You will also need the extra pounds you put on now to help you through the tough treatment. Best of luck!


Gloria
She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards

Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016.
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Ditto everything you've read from other posters about being here. I remember when i found the lump (mass), was diagnosed and finally started treatment the process took a little longer than two months. And, yes, Tom Petty is right, the waiting is the hardest part. I did find xanax a great anxiety reliever. It stopped my mind from racing around at night. I quit taking it the day i started treatment.

There are a lot of us on this forum that have had tonsil/BOT tumors treated with rads and chemo alone. My team of doctors, including the ENT/surgeon, agreed that they shouldn't cut unless they had to. Their plan was to follow up with surgery only if necessary.

Keep eating and keep us posted.



57 @ Dx, Stg IV BOT (1.5cm), lymph nodes (lrgst 2.5cm), non-smoker, casual drinker and exercise nut, Cisplatin x 2, Erbetux w/IMRT x 35/70Gy, PEG, Treated in San Antonio @ CTRC 12/16/08-1/27/09.
3/5/09-CT
6/12/09-PET, PEG out
12/1/09-CT
12/6/10-PET
12-8/11-CT
1-4/13-CT
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Andrew, glad you found us. You're part of the family now and we're all here to help. Good thoughts flowing your way.


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SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 14 years all clear in 6/23 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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Hi Andrew,
Welcome to the gang!! We all know what you are going through and will be here until you are done and even after! You have the right idea to eat all you can now.
Our doc said no surgery, just the induction chemo,then Erbitux along with tons of radiation!!
Once tx starts you know you are in battle mode so it's a little easier.
Keep in touch!!
Kathy


Kathy wife/caregiver to:
Kevin age:53
Dx 7/15/11
HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R
Non smoker, casual drinker
7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11
PEG placed 9/1/11 Removed 11/8/11
Clear PET 10/12 and 10/13 and ct in 6/14
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Welcome Andrew, and best of luck to you ion this fight.


David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer.
And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer.
May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
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