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Yep. I had a neck dissection three years ago and I still get a cramp under my chin when I yawn. Like stated above, I learned some self-messages in PT that help but like my right ear being numb, chalk it up to the side effect of them taking a mellon baller to the right side of my neck.


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Bethers...FYI it takes 29 months to get Medicare from the date of your approved disability date for SSDI, when under age 65. Good luck with the exercises.


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[quote=bethers0808]For the last week or so, I started getting these spasms, like a charlie horse, that are in my chin area, that feel like it is the bottom of my tongue, or maybe a muscle near the incision that they removed my lymph nodes from. I am thinking it is more the bottom of my tongue, but I am not sure. It has usually been doing this once a day, but today, I did an walking exercise dvd, and it did it for about 30 minutes after that, and now still hurts, but at least isn't spasming.
Has anyone else experienced this, or know of anyone else who has? I don't have insurance right now, but I finally got paperwork to do disability again, and may have medicare when that goes through, but so up in the air about everything I am not sure. I have been out of treatment since July 2010, and I don't know what is going on with this, but I don't like it. [/quote]

First, everyone should have regular massage for any muscles cramping like this for just comfort. Not deep tissue but Swedish massage works best. Find a massage school. I used one in KC and had weekly massages for $10. You can ask about advanced certifications and find someone certified in neuromuscular massage techniques or a chiropractor that utilizes ART and is certified. A good PT can do fascia massage using fascia cream a get it all loosened up for better blood flow but as soon as you get into a/c it usually seizes up. This is an issue that is lifelong but easily managed.

Second, technically you qualify for Medicare 24 months after your award date for disability. You should use your diagnosis date for the disability date. If you were on before it is a totally different process and even if you have passed your 48 month trial work period, there is a special process called EXR ( Expedited Reinstatement Process) that most local offices don't seem to know and if your refilling is because it is related to your original award, you will receive payment immediately while being processed. The process is designed to burn you out, deny you and make you go away. There are "specialists" to represent you and the govt pays for them for appeals, hearings, etc. and they are usually well connected with Administrative Hearing Officers/Judges, etc. I can give additional info on this if anyone wants to MSG me.

Managing symptoms is a lifelong process but without treatment that won't be long so understand there were no other options and work towards resolving issues. The Livestrong Foundation has a program in many places called Livestrong at the Y in partnership with the YMCA and you get a six week rebuilding regimen designed by Stanford that is a modified Pilates free for any cancer survivors and the trainers are certified in this. During this time your entire family gets a free membership as well. The classes are usually two times per week and you come prior to, work out and then do a group stretching/modified Pilates routine afterwards.

Not managing the fibrosis will cause you years of suffering as the muscles just glide. Find someone who understands scale ex in the neck. Those muscle groups can cause referred pain even in your feet. They need to be massaged out or disentangled if you will or you will have numbness and tingling somewhere.

I am a resource for all of the above unfortunately.

Be well but be diligent!

Ed


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Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
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COPD 01/14
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[quote=Uptown]Not managing the fibrosis will cause you years of suffering as the muscles just glide. Find someone who understands scale ex in the neck. Those muscle groups can cause referred pain even in your feet. They need to be massaged out or disentangled if you will or you will have numbness and tingling somewhere. [/quote]

I apologize because I was using an iPad to access the Forum and it outsmarted me. What the above should say:

...muscles must glide. Find someone who understands scalenes in the neck.

I hope this makes more sense. The scalenes are a group of muscles in the neck that involve lots of nerves and can cause referred pain throughout the body and are usually the cause of your pain in the neck but can create pain or numbness or tingling in just about any limbs. Someone that understands them will understand how to minimize issues with them. The neck where we all get radiated is the nerve highway and you would be amazed at what other issues you can chase for no reason. I traveled the path ahead of you so you don't have to!

-Ed


SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0
Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03
Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08.
Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11
Cervical Myelitis 09/12
Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12
Dysautonomia 11/12
Hospice care 09/12-01/13.
COPD 01/14
Intermittent CHF 6/15
Feeding tube NPO 03/16
VFI 12/2016
ORN 12/2017
Cardiac Event 06/2018
Bilateral VFI 01/2021
Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022
Bilateral VFI 05/2022
Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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