| Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 | Hi Tina,
Jen said the best experience EVER was getting the Trachy out and that was the real turning point in her recovery.
As with the drooling & dry mouth, get the nurses to get you some cotton swabs (large headed ones) - soak it in water and use it as kind of a toothbrush to clean in and around the inside of the teeth, gums and tongue.
With the eating - it will take a while for you to gain function back but I can assure you that it will come back over time.
Great to hear that the recovery is going well and the positive attitude will indeed go a long way!
p.s. Have they talked to you about further treatment at all?
6/8/12: Wife 33y/o with no risk dx with Stage IVa SCC L of Tongue(T4aN2bM0) 3/9/12: Induced birth @ 36 weeks - Baby Hunter! 11/9/12: OP - 3/4 Partial Gloss, Radical ND & Tongue Rec. 24/10/12: 33xRad + 7xChemo 7/12/12: Tx complete 21/3/13 & 21/6/13: NED 24/7/13: SCC in Lungs - OP: Lobectomy (VATS) 29/1/14 passed away
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Hi there eating post op for me wasn't too bad I just chewed and swallowed on the good side and stuck to maneuverable food (not mushy crap as that's a nightmare) - for me soft chewable veggies,vOmelettes , pasta etc... We're more manageable than say - mashed potatoes and pur�ed food. Hugs and hoping for a speedy recovery for you.. 
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Hi guys, thanks Cheryl, they told me to stick with pur�ed food, and it was not working well. I tried pasta today and that was better.
Jay, I am waiting on pathology, but most likely will still need a 6 week course of chemo/radiation to make sure.
I have been trying to research chemo drugs, as some are harder on kidneys than others. I donated a kidney to my dad 10 years ago, so I would like to find the least harmful. Anyone know a good source for this info?
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Cisplatin will be offered its hard on the kidneys so much so that they hook patients up to a 24 hr iv on chemo day and keep you overnight here in Toronto. Other hospitals don't do that but this I their poocol, but it's a good drug, so mayb ask to have the IV or enquire if carbo is easier. Cisplatin is the standard. best of luck - glad the pasta worked.. 
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 | Well Tina, You are getting some very good advice here and I certainly can't add to it. Stay positive through it all. I had arterial chemo for BOT. I had to be hospitalized every week (4 weeks) for 3 days to get the chemo. First day to start the IV's, second day the treatment, third day continue the IV's flushing my system. This was along with 30 radiation treatments. Before every treatment I spoke these words "Thank you Lord for the healing I'm about to receive".
I also had a PEG tube. Funny story, I was sitting there one evening feeling about as bad as one can get. I thought, wait a minute, if I can pour Ensure down that tube, why can't I have me a little mixed drink and try to feel better. so I mixed one and poured it down. Pretty good, so why not another, hey this was pretty good. About that time the alcohol gave me indegestion and that acid started coming back up on that raw throat!! I was looking for a fire extinguisher fast. I poured everything I could down that tube to get it stopped!! Don't try that, please.
Anyway,if I can ever help, advise, etc. don't hesitate. You're going to be fine, just get in touch.
Thank you and best of luck. Mac C. Tennessee
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | I'll keep vodka off the list of approved nutrients!
I'm hoping to avoid the Peg, as is my doc, but we'll see how it goes.
It seems everyone gets cisplatin and that one seems to be the worst for the kidneys. Has anyone had other chemo drugs? I'm not sure how to research this without other names. Being a control freak I'd like to go in with some other options I'm at least aware of in advance.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Tina
Ask about carboplatin. It is every bit as effective as cisplatin since it's platinum based with far fewer side effects. DavidCPA here has often posted that every MO he has ever asked always says, oh yeah, carboplatin would work as well. That has been my experience also, they just go with cisplatin as a matter of habit.
If you do get the peg, hard liquor and beer are out, but wine is fine. Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Carboplatin is commonly substituted for Cisplatin. Its very similar and doesnt affect hearing like Cisplatin can.
Dont forget to get a hearing test and a full blood count including thyroid. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 | I was scheduled for Cisplatin until I told my doctor that I had some hearing loss from an old ear infection. He imediatly changed my chemo to Corboplatin. He saw very little difference.
Kelly Male 48, SCC (Soft Palet) Rt., Stage 1, T3n0m0, Dx, 8-09, Start IMRT 35 9-2-09 end 10-21-09 04-20-10 NED 8-11 recurrence, node rt. neck N2b 10-11 33 IMRT w/chemo wkly 3-12-12 PET - residual cancer 4-12 5 treatments with Cyberknife & Erbitux 6-19-12 Pet scan CLEAR 12-3-12 PET - CLEAR
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Thanks. I'll look into that and discuss with doc.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
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