| Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 "OCF across the pond" Member | OP "OCF across the pond" Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 | Hello, I have never been on a forum before in my life, but i need to talk to contact someone to help me through the way I am feeling right now. I have not been diagnosed, but for the last 2 nights I can not stop crying with what I have read on the net. Family and friends think I am stupid in thinking that I might have cancer, but I dont think I am going mad. Any help will be much appreciated. I will start from the beginning. In March 2011 I got a "sore" on my gum where a missing tooth is,I have a denture with several teeth on. After a few weeks it did not seem to go away, so as I was due a dental checkup I went to my Dentist for my yearly check up and to see if I needed antibiotics for the "sore". The dentist told me that the small red abrasion was not an infection, but caused by my palatte. He told me to swill my mouth with salt water and adjusted my palatte. He said it could take around 6 weeks to heal, but go back if it did not clear up. 6 weeks later it was still there. So off to the dentist I go. He said the same thing. Denture problem, he adjusted it again. another 3 weeks its still there, its not really sore, but hey its there. So I go to the dentist. Same thing again, this time he said come back in 2 weeks. 2 weeks later i go he said it was a "gum tag" caused by my denture and that he would have to remove it. He assured me it was nothing to worry about/and or sinister.2 weeks later I go expecting him to remove it, but he said no need to, as it looks like its starting to clear. But come back in 2 weeks. I am next due to go back a week on tuesday. I hope you get the picture. I never knew that a long term small red spot/sore could be oral cancer. If I did I would of done more. Part 2. The last month I have had pain in my neck, ear throat area. My neck feels stiff, its not a sharp pain, but more of dull ache. I have been meaning to go the doctors with it but i felt silly going with a stiff head/neck. So on Friday night I look on the net for answers to cure a stiff neck, etc. Head and neck cancer symptoms came up. I read that earache, neck pain, red spot/sore in mouth are red flag symptoms. Oral cancer could be a ulcer or sore that does not heal after 3 weeks. I was never aware of this.I am freaked out that this sore is cancer and I think now its spread to my neck. Have I been misdiagonosed by my dentist? Surely he should be aware of oral cancer. I thought I had done right in going but now i am so worried. I am going to the doctors tomorrow. But I swear now that i can feel this dull ache down my shoulder blade. Can this thing attack so quick? I read the sooner its diagnosed the better survival rate. But its a "quiet" cancer not producing pain un til its advanced. As you can imagine I am so scared right now,I am a female and have just turned 40, I have been with my partner for 12 years, and married last year.We Have just recently decided to try for a baby. I have always worked in factory environemts, and shift work, I have never smoked, but do drink, I do like the sun, not that we get much in the north east of england. Any words of encouragement would be so kind.
And any help with information with all the brave people who have gone through this.
Carolinex | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Welcome to OCF, Caroline! I hope all your symptoms turn out to be nothing serious. Please stop searching the internet and getting yourself upset, it will not help you at all. You have discovered the most comprehensive place for all info about oral cancer and it is most importantly correct info. Just because you read things online does NOT make them true so please help yourself by not continuing to do online searches.
Unfortunately, yes your symptoms could be oral cancer. COULD is the word! Dont get upset, learn and empower yourself!
Too often dentists do not recognize oral cancer. This is a very sad but true statement. This will cause oral cancer patients to go undiagnosed for longer than they should. This makes it harder to treat, but not impossible to treat. Many Stage IV survivors successfully conquer oral cancer and its treatments. Im one of them!
I would suggest you seek out an ENT (ear, nose and throat) specialist. Look for someone who treats oral cancer patients. Show them the lesion and give all your symptoms. They will need to do a biopsy to know what your sore is. Honestly, sometimes dentures can cause mouth sores which are very hard to heal since it continually rubs on the denture. I would suggest rinsing several times per day with a mixture of 16 oz warm water, 2 tsp baking soda and 2 tsp salt. Sorry I do not know the UK equivalent to US measurements. This will help to neutralize your mouth and promote healing.
Best wishes!!! ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Caroline
Yeah, Dr. Google is pretty scary. I second the advice to go to an ENT (ear,nose throat) doctor which is a nickname for their formal title: Otolaryngologist The ENT may take a biopsy right there in the office. Only a biopsy and pathology report confirm cancer. But ENTs also see lots of non cancer sores and recognize them so it may not even be necessary. You can also ask the ENT for a CT scan of your head and neck. At this point, telling you to RELAX is not going to help although you do need to take a Deep Breath and CALM DOWN. As for words of encouragement, if one your lymph nodes on your neck has not expanded to the size of a golf ball, that's a good sign. Also none of your symptoms mean it has to be cancer, each and every one of them, and even all of them together can have other non-life threatening causes. But your peace of mind requires you to see an ENT in my opinion. Charm
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65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Hi there - unfortunately dentists don't always recognize oral cancer... There was another person here - who had braces and they kept chalking the unhealing sore in her mouth up to irritation from the braces... When she had them removed it was still there and finally she was diagnosed with OC. Not saying you have oral cancer but my ENT (not a good one obviously thought the sore under my tongue was related to irritation from a molar - not true several years later - I got an scc diagnosis, if for no other reason than peace of mind see an ENT - have a biopsy done - and find out for sure. Good luck... And take care. 
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 "OCF across the pond" Member | OP "OCF across the pond" Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 | Thankyou all so much for your words of encouragement. You are all so kind to take time to reply. I have just been to a local walk in doctors surgery for help. The doctor has examined me , I have no ear infection to cause pain. And his diagonosis for my stiff neck and shoulder blade pain is connective inflamed tissue. He can feel tenderness. He said this pain can radiate upto my ear. He examined my mouth and said the right hand side was inflammed, as for the red spot he said that I need to go to mydoctor to get a referral to a ent . He did say thatthis should.have been done normally after 3 weeks. He has given me antibiotics, strong anti inflammation tablets and painkillers if I need them. My red spot is on the front left hside of my gums, and he reckons that my neck etc pain which is on the right would not be connected. I'm still going to ky doctor's tomorrow. Thankyou all once again, you are all truly inspirational. I feel much better knowing that people like you take time on a stranger to help them. X | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | I'm glad to see you are getting to the proper MDs for diagnosis. Part of what OCF does is to educate dentists about oral cancer screenings as part of regular check ups. Yes, even though they ate pros doen't mean they don't still need some education.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | It's so true what David R. said about not all dentists being knowledgeable regarding oral cancer screening. If you go to this OCF link: http://oralcancerfoundation.org/dental/index.html - and scroll down a little bit you will see "How to know if you have had a proper oral cancer screening". There is also a section for dentists on doing a proper oral exam. When I first went to my dentist I asked if he did exams for oral cancer and he said "Oh yes, with every patient" but I later found out that he really wasn't doing the kind of exam he should have been. I printed out a bunch of pages from the OCF site which included oral exam information and left it with the office people. The next time I went in he did a very thorough exam just like the description from OCF. He even got a Velscope for his office! (I had left info on that, too.)
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
| | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 "OCF across the pond" Member | OP "OCF across the pond" Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 | Hello again, I made a typing error I was meant to say march 2012 not 2011, in my first post.
Caroline x
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | And I meant to say "they are pros", not "they ate pros". But then they say you are what you eat. ;-). I am fortunate (well, not fortunate for him) to have a dentist who is himself an oral cancer survivor.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 56 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 56 | Caroline--I hope that your symptoms turn out to be something less scary and dangerous than you have been fearing. I hope you will also go beyond the docs you have seen so far and include a good ENT in the mix, as others have suggested; I think they are best for ruling in or out the possibility of the cancer you have feared, and be best able to give you peace of mind. A thorough exam for oral cancer is not that difficult; scoping the base of the tongue with a tiny tube causes some tickling and slight irritation, but it is brief and the only way to see the hidden parts of your oral cavity. A PET scan can help identify any indications of cancer anywhere in the body should there be any visible indications of cancer. Whether the news is good or bad, getting the news as soon as feasible, and with the highest degree of certainty, will be the best solution to your health anxieties. Good luck!
Ed H, NE Ohio SCC BOT with lymph node involvement, HPV+, diagnosed 7/12 Radiation and Cisplatin
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