| Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 "OCF Canuck" Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck" Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 | Thought I'd share: While looking for PreviDent5000, I came across 3M Clinpro5000. I noticed the 3M version was more than double the size and they were both $13.99 (I live in Canada, no Rx required, on the shelf). For whatever reason, it rang in on sale at $3.50, ShoppersDrugMart. It also looks like it has some advantages over the Colgate brand too, including the remineralizing agent Tri-Calcium Phosphate: http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediaw...vTSeSSSSSS--&fn=clinpro_5000_cpc.pdfAnyways, hope it's available wherever you are if you're interested.
FNAB Dx SCC left lymph Sept2/11 (age 43), left tonsillectomy Sept21/11 confirmed primary. T1N2bM0. 35 IMRT both sides Oct17-Dec12/11. Cisplatin week 1,4,7. Non-smoker, non-drinker, p16+.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | I used to use only Biotene products as my mouth was super sensitive after rads. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 | Thanks for the share....I have been trying to find something else that works. Down here in MN/ND area, they dont sell Prevident 5000 otc, and only place to get it really is at the dentist, or I guess maybe could get it from the pharmacy, but haven't tried that yet. that has been the only toothpaste that has stopped my gums from receding and stopped my poor teeth from weakening worse. So i will have to try to look for the 3m brand, as nothing else, not even any biotene products helps either of the above stated issues, so I have been forced to get that tiny $13.99 bottle of toothpaste,  . Hope I can find it down here, 
25/female at diagnosis Dx;stage 3 SCC tongue 03/25/2010 Surgery 04/13/2010 Trach,ng tube, peg feeding tube Hemiglossectomy, right side neck dissection, 40 lymph nodes removed. Free-Flap transplant to tongue. 30 rounds IMRT ended July 15,2010 | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 | While toothpaste is a must, flossing is really better for preventing your gums from receeding. Perhaps you are doing that religiously as well. And, of course, daily fluoride.
Best, Anne
SCC tongue 9/2010, excised w/clear margins:8 X 4 mm, 1 mm deep Neck Met, 10/2010, 1 cm lymph node; 12/21/'10: Neck Diss 30 nodes, 29 clear, micro ECE node, part tongue gloss, no residual scc IMRT & 6 cisplatin 1/20/11-2/28/11 at MDA GIST tumor sarcoma, removed 9/2011, no chemo needed Clear on both counts as of Fall, 2021
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Hey guys definitely use a good toothpaste. But try a waterpik too - I originally bought it to help clean out the goop in my mouth during treatment now I use it for its real purpose - cleaning in between teeth and around the gum line. my dental oncogist saw me Monday and told me if my mouth stay the way it is now he'll be exstatic... I brush and pik gently twice a day... But I also eat very little sugar  hugs all!
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Thanks for the tip, Roger. I'll definitely look that stuff up as I'm buying Prevident from my dentist at 13 bucks a pop. But I also second Cheryl's advice about a Water Pik. I bought one a month ago and I love it. I put a squirt of Biotene mouthwash in the water and it really makes my mouth feel clean. I'll be interested to see if my hygeinist notices a difference. I also use a Sonicare toothbrush, which is terrific.
Update: just looked on Ebay for the Clinpro and it's considerably more expensive than Prevident. Also couldn't quite find it anywhere else online except for professional dental supply houses, which I've tried before and which won't sell to me. Oh well.
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David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 10 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 10 | What is the difference between prevident Gel and PreviDent 5000. Dental oncologist Gave me Prevident Gel to us with mouth gaurds, ten minutes a day, But I just gag and vomit. Any suggestions.
Ilyse 46 non smoker non drinker. SCC stage 2 in 1999 and 2010. Recurrence 2011. Stage 4. Modified neck, thyroid cancer found. 7 weeks IMRT/Chemo cisplatin. Aug - Sept 2011. 2012 shwanna tumor on right auditory nerve. Not Cancerous only 20% removed. Wll do Gamma knife.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | Ilyse, I had the same problem with the flouride gel, but prevident 500 for dry mouth tastes better and really is good for the dry mouth. I think it's only available from your dentist, and costs abouit 11.00 here.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 "OCF Canuck" Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck" Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 | I posted this on another forum board and a couple of people there who live in the U.S. say they are getting it from their dentist. One said his dentist recommended it and he has been using it for a couple of years so I guess it's been out for a while. Nobody has mentioned cost yet.
FNAB Dx SCC left lymph Sept2/11 (age 43), left tonsillectomy Sept21/11 confirmed primary. T1N2bM0. 35 IMRT both sides Oct17-Dec12/11. Cisplatin week 1,4,7. Non-smoker, non-drinker, p16+.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Oh man how I wish I needed floss and tooth paste. I pretend all of my canned Isosource is a differnt steak or pasta to keep downing it. Take care of those pearlies all.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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