| Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Steve, you're a hero. By about week three, maybe even earlier, I was so knocked out I could barely make it to treatment every day. Forget about eating solid food. And you've even gained weight!
Keep up the good work!
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 13 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 13 | Steve, You have the right attitude to get through this and I commend you for for your approach of staying with your normal activities. Keep it up, week by week. We all have different experiences with the rads, but most experience some fatigue around the 50% mark. In my case, I kept up good activity until I hit the wall, and did my best to fight through albeit at a reduced level of activity. You are doing great, so stay strong, stay with your program and keep that positive attitude, day by day and week by week.
Bob
Bob, age 64, reformed smoker since 3/85, moderate alcohol, Right tonsil, 5/20/09 tonsillectomy, T2N0M0, IMRT started 6/17/09, ended 8/3/09, 33TX, no chemo, 11/6/09 & 7/21/11 PET/CT Scan clear
| | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 27 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 27 | Eric - Thanks for the advice, I am drinking over 80 oz as per my Nutritionist. Of that number, about 50% of that is Gatorade (low sugar version)
I will step it up to over 100 oz.
Just finished my 10th treatment today, I am scheduled for a total of 33.
Food is starting to taste like shit, had a large grilled fish burrito tonight and it tasted kind of funky.
Mouth is getting dry at night. I need to buy a misster as I have heard good things about using one. Should I use plain water or would you recommend another concoction?
Best - Steve
50 yr old, male SCC of Lymph node right side of neck - 6/30/11 Biopsy: 8/23/2011 MND Right side- 9/19/2011 - 18 nodes - 17 clear T1N1M0 source on right tonsil tissue HPV+ IMRT 33 sessions started 10/18/11. Finished 12/5/11 No Chemo | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Steve, I hear you about the taste of food. After a few weeks even water tasted metallic to me. Not that I was eating anything solid at that point anyway.
But the taste will eventually return. Might take some time and it's different for all of us.
As to the mister... why not? I've used one on and off and I don't seem to notice a difference. But of course you've got much higher humidity back in my hometown of Miami than we do in dry old LA.
I'd go with water. Unless someone else has a better idea.
Hang in there, buddy!
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Steve
You young guys! Way to go. I agree with Eric (no surprise there) about headaches & dehydration mostly because I never had a headache from radiation or chemo. I had a whole house humidifier which really helped the first time around plus when I could not work out anymore, I still went to the gym just for the steam room. But since mucositis is not too much mucous (which I thought it meant until I joined OCF) but mouth sores from radiation, I used seltzer water. It fizzed and burned a little but not only cleared up my mouth sores but also did help dislodge mucous. You are doing great . But there is no shame in just letting this TX wash over you in the later stages. Not that it will happen to you, but I thought I was "tough" until my face fell off. Keep the Faith Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Probably by now you are not going to the gym. Most of us got so weak and/or fatigued we had to plan our day around the best time to sit in the shower. Calories become precious commodities as treatment progresses. You will need them for basic life support.
It's a bummer having to start over at the gym after an extended time off but it is what it is.
I would also have concerns about infections you could acquire in gyms (or any other public places for that matter) with a crashed immune system.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 27 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 27 | I am down to my last radiation session on Monday. I stopped going to the gym a week ago as I was feeling a bit run down and did not want to push things. I lost about ten pounds and feel that I am very fortunate that I have not had to take any painkillers. Though I have been taking Tylenol PM to help be sleep better at night. The throat is a bit sore, but I guess that is expected at this stage. I can eat most non-spicy/acidic soup and have oatmeal with bananas for breakfast.
I supplement that with Chocolate protein shakes two to three times per day. Recipe is as follows:
Chocolate Why Protein - 1 scoop Glutamine - 2 tbs One raw egg either Swiss Chard or kale raw almond butter - 2 tbs Chocolate Hemp Milk 4-5 Ice cubes Mix it up very well in a blender.
Radiologist says that I can expect to go hard in the gym in aprox 3 weeks. I will give you all an update in a week to let you know how I am feeling
50 yr old, male SCC of Lymph node right side of neck - 6/30/11 Biopsy: 8/23/2011 MND Right side- 9/19/2011 - 18 nodes - 17 clear T1N1M0 source on right tonsil tissue HPV+ IMRT 33 sessions started 10/18/11. Finished 12/5/11 No Chemo | | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I was 5 years older than you and in very good health going into it. It was a full year before I was back to 80% of what I could accomplish pre Tx. Everyone has different experiences with their response to treatment. Some have even driven themselves to all of their RT treatments and went back to work several weeks, post Tx, but they are certainly the minority. I'm not trying to be a downer here - just tell you that the post Tx phase is very unpredictable. The majority of us continued with radiation reaction issues up to 3 weeks post Tx so I am curious why your doc feels you will be back in the gym in 3 weeks.
I have always felt one has to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Take it one day at a time.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I drove until about the last 2 weeks and finally I admitted that I was not only a danger to myself but to the rest of the drivers. I also had a horrible experience my first 2 weeks post Tx, hospitalized, etc and finally walked out of that tunnel in the 3rd week. I was still weak (mentally and physically) as a kitten for a good 3 to 4 months post Tx but by spring, which was after my tax season, I was mentally ready to take on Lance. With my renewed desire to prove to myself I was not going to let this affect me and with my new lighter frame I quickly rose to my pre Tx riding ability and for a time was a better rider. Each of us can respond differently.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 | Laz, i too was in pretty good share, knocking down an ironman a year. My treatment devistated me. I was done about 26 montha ago and it took a good 6 months before I could run or ride well, swimming was a bit eaiser. I did lose alot of muscle so it is frustrating comming back. I am weaker than I was before, but still have the desire to work out. You got plenty of advise in the previous posts but here is one more. We all lose some of our salivia during radiation. it takes a while to come back. I bought a camelback still run and ride with it! It is a loooong road back but just keep moving forward! You will make it back
Steve
70 male, athlete...again SSC of undetermined orgin , early july 09 40 tx radiation, 8 chemo cisplatin and ebuterx finished TX in mid Sept 09 Clear at the 6 year mark! Back to swimming, biking and running! just a tad slower never regained my weight, even when I eat lots and lots, just a skinny guy now
Just way glad to be seeing the green side up!
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