#12974 11-27-2007 03:15 AM | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 | I recently had my old neck dissection scar opened to have an enlarged lymph gland removed. I am wondering what is the best product to use topically on the new scar? I have been told to use Vit E oil from capsules, but then I remember reading that Vit E could perhaps stimulate the area of healing too much. I am interested to know what others have used to help heal their scars externally. I hope this does not sound too superficial! Thanks
Adele, mucoepidermoid carcinoma of the submandibular gland, 05/06, left neck dissection, gland and tumor removed, intermediate grade, margins negative, 9 lymph nodes negative, no rad, no chemo, 11/07 surgical biopsy of lymph node left neck, no cancer!
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#12975 11-27-2007 03:20 AM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 199 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 199 | Adele - I used a product called Mederma on my ND scar - you can buy it over the counter, it was recommended to me and it seemed to work well.
Ginny M. SCC of Left lateral tongue Dx 04/06,Surgery MDACC 05/11/06: Partial glossectomy with selective neck dissection. T1N0M0 - no radiation. Phase III clinical trial ("EPOC" trial)04/07 thru 04/08 because tests showed a 65% chance of recurrence. 10 Year Survivor!
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#12976 11-27-2007 11:51 AM | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 580 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 580 | Adele, Vitamin E from a capsule may not be the best idea. I have read about cases where the vitamin E elicited it's own ill effects and delayed healing. It has been know in some cases if it is pure to almost burn the skin. My skin graft recipient site was rather large 16 cm diameter (the size of a pie plate). When I was released from hospital I still had 150 staples in it which were succesively removed over the next month. During that time I was advised to use polysporin gel. After the staples were all gone (I still can feel one or to that disappeared but I'm in no hurry to get the removed now) My plastic surgeon who did the graft advised me to use "Lanoelle" twice a day and gently massage it into the whole graft and the surronding scar. Lanolin is a natural oil extracted from the wool of sheep. It is produced by the sebacous glands in thier skin. Lanolin has many natural vitamins and minerals in it that help in wound healing. It has anti-fungal and anti-bacterial properties. It is absorbed into the skin and helps to maintain moisture. Lanolin also acts to reduce friction while massaging scar tisuue. Massaging (gently) helps break up and smooth out developing scars by redistributing the cells that are being formed at the base of the scar. Ten years later I still aplly it once a week. There have been a few reports of allergic reactions to lanolin so the first couple of times you use it you should watch for redness and itchyness. If nothing occurs then apply as much as you need. Wash your hands immediatly after you're done to avoid getting it in your eyes, nose or mouth. It worked great for me.
I hope this is usful. Cheers, Mike
Dentist since 1995, 12 year Cancer Survivor, Father, Husband, Thankful to so many who supported me on my journey so far, and more than happy to comfort a friend. Live, Laugh, Love & Learn.
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#12977 11-27-2007 06:22 PM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 | I used mederma as well I also read somthing about vitamin E increasing risk of a secondary H&N cancer
"While it was once hoped that supplements of folic acid could help reduce colon cancer, new research has shown that taking more than the minimum daily requirement would be harmful. Simon says other studies underscore the downside to dietary supplements, which are unregulated in the United States. "The most striking example is beta carotene which we used to be very hopeful about, but actually increases the risk of lung cancer in smokers. Vitamin E increases the risk of second head-neck cancers in people who have been successfully treated for a first malignancy."
this is under the news section here of the OCF
Sharlee 35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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#12978 11-27-2007 11:32 PM | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 | Thank you all, I knew I read about Vit E and not using it after surgery. My surgeon told me to use Vit E. I will email him the article.
Adele, mucoepidermoid carcinoma of the submandibular gland, 05/06, left neck dissection, gland and tumor removed, intermediate grade, margins negative, 9 lymph nodes negative, no rad, no chemo, 11/07 surgical biopsy of lymph node left neck, no cancer!
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#12979 11-27-2007 11:53 PM | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 | Can't find the article regarding Vit E and Oral cancer recurrence. Can anyone tell me where it is? Thanks
Adele, mucoepidermoid carcinoma of the submandibular gland, 05/06, left neck dissection, gland and tumor removed, intermediate grade, margins negative, 9 lymph nodes negative, no rad, no chemo, 11/07 surgical biopsy of lymph node left neck, no cancer!
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#12980 11-28-2007 06:39 AM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | I used Biafine which is prescription on my Neck dissections. It is a deep wound healing cream, but cannot be used on open wounds. It also was great at healing the sunburn from the radiation. Supposedly if you start using it a few weeks before radiation, it helps prevent some of the radiation damage. Naturally you only apply this AFTER the daily treatment, not before.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#12981 11-28-2007 07:45 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | 11/26/2007 web-based article Rosanne Skirble Voice of America ( www.voanews.com) left hand menu bar on log in page under oral cancer in the news/recent articles
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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