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Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 27 | Has anybody heard of the drug EBC-46 QBiotics for treatment of cancer in humans? It has finished animal trials and is soon to be used in vetinary practises. Human clinical trials are due to begin in 2012 however i'm wondering if there is any way to access this drug through the Category A form special access scheme (aust. government therpeutic goods administration) act? Has anyone tried to do similar (and found an oncologist willing to administer) as my cancer has unfortunately progressed to weeks/months left to live. Please view their website for further information www.qbiotics.com Thank you Tony
lyph node positive 10/08
Parotodectomy 4/09
Rad six wks 65 grey
Pet scan clear 03/10 no primary
Pet 01/10 base tonge primary
CT 3.5 Tumor 01/2010
radical tongue reconstruction
with forearm flap 2/10
severe Trismus 06/10
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Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | What a great site this is ( www.qbiotics.com) and the EBC-46 really sounds encouraging! I can understand why certain protocol must be followed before actually testing on humans, but where different countries are involved maybe the protocals or testing time could be different and allow for sooner availability to humans? - Especially when and if a cancer patient is willing to take the risk. Since it is soon to be used by veterinarians, maybe they would be more aware of how or when it might be available for humans? Tony - I hope and pray that something positive happens for you very soon.
Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
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Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 34 | hey tony i'm very sorry to hear your prognosis i hope you can get what your looking for from the new drug a clinical trial or something as a fellow aussie my heart goes out too you much love and peace to you and your family.
2yrs post treatment
throat cancer
primary on tonsil
mets to neck
teeth removed
peg in/peg out
7 weeks rad
3 chemo
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Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Tony
Your situation does sound like our nightmares come true. It can be so frustrating to think that perhaps something could help you. However, If you can not get hold of this unproven drug, remember that the web site says it has to be "topically applied" or "injected directly into the tumor" in order to work.
I also had a tumor at the base of my tongue, twice now, and both times it was totally inaccessible to any injection or topical application by anything except radiation or having my neck split and jaw broken open and major surgery.
I've also very sorry to hear about the prognosis. Life is so unfair. It's in the back of the minds of all of us for whom the cancer keeps coming back and I hope you do find a miracle cure.
65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Passed away 4-29-13
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 | Look, I don't want to through a wet blanket on all this, but I can't even count the number of promising cancer drugs that made it through animal trials and never made it to market here in the US. Hundreds over the last decade. Even if this was THE one, it could take years to get through the clinical trials. The truth is that we are not mice. Of course the pharma companies are all over talking about this, and pumping it up in releases, they have to raise millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to do the trials and then IF something is successful get it through the authorities in each country.
In the US, the FDA would have to issue an experimental approval to do something with an unapproved drug, treatment, or device, and I haven't seen them do it in the last 12 years.
Needless to say, I think everyone on these boards are pulling for a breakthrough for you to get past these difficult times.
Last edited by Brian Hill; 09-21-2010 06:55 PM.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Tony, glad you posted, I was concerned. Sending prayers your way.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive  | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts)
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Likes: 1 | Tony, my thoughts are with you.
David 2
David 2
SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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