#11523 07-31-2007 05:01 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 136 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 136 | http://www.wlwt.com/news/13786879/detail.html I wonder how this will turn out. It will be interesting for sure - since there is no way to tell who gave who and testing doesn't tell you how long you have or haven't had the diesase.
SCC Right Lateral Tongue T2N0M0 Dx 01/12/06, Surgery 01/25/06. Partial Glossectomy, Bilateral Neck Dissection - 22 lymph nodes - all clear. No radiation.
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#11524 07-31-2007 03:25 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 | Any attorney that takes this case is going to have a hellava time PROVING that that man gave her the HPV she has. Testing him to determine that he is a carrier will be next to impossible, determining that she did not contract this through someone else earlier in her life, and have had it dormant in her for a decade or more will be impossible to prove, and so much more. If she has had multiple sex partners that will add another series of unknowns to the equation. Since she does not have cancer, only a virus that her own immune system may deal with in time, and may never develop a serious disease from the virus, she will also have a hard time proving injury, a necessity to have a claim. As to treatments, I would imagine they would be for cancer if she ever gets it since there are no treatments for HPV. What treatments exactly would she like him to pay for ? (I vote for psychiatric) Which begs the question - how does this guy know he had HPV? There is no reliable mechanism to test men for it, and it has no outward symptoms that anyone would have to tell them they were a carrier. This whole thing is lame in so many ways. I have heard some strange things about Kentucky... but that this could end up in the courts there takes the cake.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | |
#11525 07-31-2007 03:29 PM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 | I agree with you Brian... Working at Planned Parenthood I dealt alot with HPV and like you said it can lay dormant for years..and in this case I think you would have to prove intent to harm ( if in fact you could prove he gave it ) and if she as engaged to be married to him I am sure there was no intent.
Sharlee 35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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#11526 07-31-2007 05:40 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Maybe she gave him HPV?!?! My understanding also is that if it is dormant it won't show up in a bloodtest that's why my doctors won't test me for it. I have HCV - it's been dormant since I was 6 years old (when I had my only blood transfusion). It became active almost 30 years later and has been dormant ever since. I also had shingles (Herpes Zoster) from chickenpox that I had as a child. It also lays undetectable in the ganglia unless it goes active.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#11527 08-05-2007 03:37 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 168 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 168 | I think it is a shame that people "all over this country" have found it a better idea to sue than deal with there own choices. This is the first I had heard of this. But hey what a breakthough all this would be if it leads someone down a path to find answers to more of these HPV questions. I do think this woman is wasting alot of time though.
Lee, age 33, stage 4a, T2N2bM0, Tumor left tonsil (removed), 2 left side nodes removed (poorly differientiatied)total of 3 nodes involved. Treatment IMRT x33/ 2x Cysplatin completed. Good Health and Good Help to you. Lee
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#11528 08-06-2007 02:22 PM | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 167 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 167 Likes: 1 | I would say certifiable nuts. As Brian said, about the attorney who takes this will have to prove he gave it to her. How can he do this? Gary is probbally correct in stating she may have given it to him. Where will it end? Bill
Bill B. Dx 10-16-06 Stage 4 T2N2bM0 SCC Left Tonsil,3 nodes. 1st tx 11-28-06, last tx 1-8-07. 3x Cisplatlin, 5fu pump, and Doxetaxel. Modified neck dissection,20 Nodes removed, all clear 02-21-07. HPV+,33 IMRT start 3-22-07 70GY,Completed 05-04-07 | | |
#11529 08-10-2007 09:46 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 75 Senior Member (75+ posts) | Senior Member (75+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 75 | I have a question the shots they a giving for this, are they just for girls? and What age should they get this?
Tongue Cancer, stage 4, spread to neck/ Radical neck, 3 chemos, 33 radiation. 5-18-2005
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#11530 08-10-2007 09:50 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 46 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 46 | Hey Dogman,
I work in a pediatric clinic and they are recommending the shots routinely for girls starting at age 11 to 12 (unless they are at especially high risk, then they can have it sooner). There is also now a move toward immunizing boys, too, and my guess is that it would be at about the same ages.
CG to spouse, tonsillar SCC, T2N0M0, tonsillectomy 9/06, 35 rad tx finished 12/06, no chemo. Positive PET 3/07 in tonsillar fossa (residual tumor), surgery 4/2/07 composite resection tonsillar fossa and BOT w/forearm graft and right ND.
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#11531 08-10-2007 04:09 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 75 Senior Member (75+ posts) | Senior Member (75+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 75 | I have 2 boys 13 and 16 I think it would be a good idea for them to have thease shots as well. What are your thoughts?
Tongue Cancer, stage 4, spread to neck/ Radical neck, 3 chemos, 33 radiation. 5-18-2005
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