I would like to thank both KLO and Maria for all the backtracking to get the story right in this thread. You have done a great job of it. It is very important that we do not let misinformation live on the boards, that we correct it when it can be known for sure what the right information is, and absent of that ability we must delete the threads.

The OCF forum is Goggled ( like it or not) and our discussions here can live in the cyber world for a protracted period of time. We never want anything misleading, or grossly biased, to stay on these boards; living on to hurt someone or to alter their ability to make sound decisions.

Both of you allowed this thread to continue on to help others, by doing the hard work of digging out the right answers. I would like to thank you for your time to do so.

There is a great deal of bad information on the Internet since it is the unregulated wild west of biased misinformation, outright fraud, and hidden agendas to sell, or convince someone of something. When information is brought to the boards from this open source, we all need to be vigilant to see that those was are all trying to help have it sifted for accuracy and vetted properly. MANY will come here and be offended by being challenged as they bring with them bias from the passionate and sometimes very convincing stories and bloggers they find in cyberspace. While we need to be civil, standing for what is correct is never wrong. Hopefully, people will appreciate the effort, though some will just move on to another venue where urban myth can thrive and their perspectives can remain unchallenged.

I have said many times that these OCF boards are NOT a democracy. But in order for them to function properly it takes people like the two of you to sometimes do the heavy lifting of finding the facts.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.