Brian
Just makes me appreciate all the more that the Lombardi Cancer Center in Georgetown University which is run under the auspices of the Jesuits within the Catholic Church does not deprive its cancer patients of [quote]a say in the process[/quote]based on a criteria that does not take into account whether you are already 20 or 30% overweight, your percentage of lean muscle mass, prior weight history, or just motivation. Of course such action would not be in the Ignation tradition of Cura Personalis

Explication from my seminarian days for those not steeped in Catholic minutiae
[quote]Cura Personalis is Latin for "Care for the entire person." Cura Personalis stresses attention towards the individual needs of others, respect for their condition and circumstances, and a sincere acknowledgment of their uniqueness.[/quote]

But hey, we had this conversation back when I joined. You certainly have tempered your response and make your points better now. I need to work on that.
I see however our respective views remain unchanged.
Charm