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EricS #98922 07-07-2009 04:33 AM
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[quote]De gustibus, non disputandum est.[/quote] One of my favorite Latin sayings from the Seminary days: LIterally: concerning tastes, there cab be no argument, but meaning that matters of taste are solely preferences and you can't have a valid argument about which taste is better, only an opinion not based on reason or facts. During my first round of radiation back in 07, I forced down Ensure Plus Vanilla. I could not stand the so called chocolate flavors as the taste was so different from good chocolate (sort of like instant coffee compared to ground beans put through a french press). Even the super cheap Palmer chocolate candy that floods the bargin bins at holidays tasted better. My wife really had to shop around as apparently all the shoppers in our area agreed. She had to hit 5 different chain stores as they all had only a few vanilla left on the shelves but lots of chocolate sitting around. When I got better I asked some of the managers about it and they said that the vanilla sold out almost as soon as it came it, but their marketing offices had committed in advance to buying equal amounts of chocolate and strawberry so they just stockpiled those in the back or put them up for huge discounts.


65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

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Florida Bill #98923 07-07-2009 04:37 AM
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Florida bill

even my PEG tube food: Jevity 1.5 boasts on its front that it has [quote]Prebiotics to help maintain and restore gut flora damaged by antibiotics or disease[/quote] under the trade name of Nutraflora FOS Good luck in finding no prebiotic drinks.


65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

Passed away 4-29-13
Charm2017 #98930 07-07-2009 05:16 AM
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The absolute worst was the Strawberry. I too could not stand the choc flavors.

15,000 cans, that has to be some record and 10 a day, wow you win the award for perseverance.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
davidcpa #98942 07-07-2009 09:29 AM
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Florida Bill,

Welcome back. We need you down on the island to rustle us up one of those lobsters dinners you use to make us. Hope all is going well.

Dark Chocolate sounds delicious. Is that Ensure or Ensure Plus? I can't stand regular Ensure. I liken the difference in taste to drinking skim milk vs heavy cream. I will have to have my husband look for for the Dark Chocolate.

Also thank you for the heads up on the probiotics. I think I had the same reaction when I ate Dannon Activia for a couple weeks. I contacted Dannon about it and they assured my that it couldn't possibly cause diarrhea. The minute I stopped eating it, the problem went away. Hopefully that will not happen with the Ensure Plus.

Take care,
Eileen


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Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III
mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad
Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND
June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer
June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
Eileen #98972 07-07-2009 04:02 PM
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The best way to drink any of that is to swallow fast and avoid the taste.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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EzJim #99002 07-08-2009 05:18 AM
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That's the way I did it but taste was not my main reason it was nausea.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
davidcpa #99008 07-08-2009 08:19 AM
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I spoke to one of the nicest customer service people I have ever encountered yesterday at Ross. She informed me that the only difference in the old and new product is the amount of fibre it contains. The old product has less than 1 gram. The new and improved one has 3 grams.

I contacted my supplier, they made some calls and found me several cases of the old product. At the suggestion of the Ross customer service woman I am going to use some of the new and old products and hopefully my system will adjust to the increase in fibre. I think that just may work.



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Florida Bill #99230 07-10-2009 05:49 PM
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Not sure if this a new product, but we just received samples of SCANDSHAKE instant shake mix-vanilla flavor from our nutrionist. You mix it with one cup of whole milk. It is 600 calories. My husband can't stand the taste of anything, including ensure and carnation VHC but he actually thought this tasted pretty good. So I thought I'd share this with everyone. It has to be ordered. 1800-472-2634. I have no idea how much it costs since I'll be ordering on Monday. Apparently it is expensive ( what we call liquid gold)!

Vanessa


Jeff age 49 DX 5/8/09 Tonsil cancer T2N2BMO. Tonsillectomy 5/14/09. TX: Cisplatin 3x's every 21 days w/ 33 Rad concurrent. 2-3 nodes on right neck affected. PEG 7/10/09. Chemo/rad start 6/12/9, TX finished 7/28/09. Extended TX
3 more chemo/Cisplatin/5FU/Docetaxil start 9/11, Clean PET 10/29/09.
Watt #99231 07-10-2009 05:50 PM
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Whoops.. it is called SCANDISHAKE.


Jeff age 49 DX 5/8/09 Tonsil cancer T2N2BMO. Tonsillectomy 5/14/09. TX: Cisplatin 3x's every 21 days w/ 33 Rad concurrent. 2-3 nodes on right neck affected. PEG 7/10/09. Chemo/rad start 6/12/9, TX finished 7/28/09. Extended TX
3 more chemo/Cisplatin/5FU/Docetaxil start 9/11, Clean PET 10/29/09.
Watt #99266 07-11-2009 11:28 AM
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If he likes it and will drink it, that's great.

One problem I had was I could like something today and tomorrow it would taste like crap.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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