| Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Well, I failed my Barium Swallow Test yet again. This makes three in a row. At least I could swallow one third of a teaspoon of barium without aspiration so I will endure another 12 sessions of Vitalstim and take another MBS in December. Of course since 1/3 of a teaspoon could not provide enough nourishment for a mouse, let alone a grown man - no food not even soft or pureed this year for me. Seven months and two weeks of nothing but Jevity 1.5 (and wine) down the PEG. Now they think it was the extra 25 GY of radiation on top of the earlier 72 GY that has damaged the nerves that control swallowing. So October and November will be spent driving to the CCC twice a week, dealing with their parking and paperwork, and sitting in a room for an hour trying to swallow. I am up to 300 "audible swallows" but apparently lots of them are just aspirating spit and saliva into my lungs which apparently does not cause any health issues. Food however if aspirated would be life threatening. Still it does beat the alternative of being dead, and we are saving some money on groceries as the insurance picks up all the jevity tab now that I met my $6,000 catastrophic co pays for this year. I have not given up hope for a Christmas miracle but don't have much faith in it either. charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 | Martin was quite lucky i suppose as he could swallow a little after about 1 month of the end of treatment, but he needed to do a triple swallow. He can now swallow much better 1 year on, and eats almost everything (sometimes with lots of water). But he does get cases when food gets stuck somewhere in the throat without him realising. He told the endoscopy consultant "I sometimes cough and a corn flake flies out of my mouth, it's very embarassing", "really a corn flake?" to which martin answered "oh not always a corn flake, sometimes it's a sugar puff that flies out!". He's mad! but I did laugh when he told me.
Girlfriend to Martin 49 years old at diagnosis Diagnosed with SCC unknown primary June 2008. Cancer found in single node Stage N2A (3 to 6cm). Tonsilectomy 16th june, Radical modified neck dissection left side 30th june. 30 TX radiotherapy ended 9th October First comparative study scan came back clear
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 71 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 71 | OK - I'm going for my second attempted esophageal stretch today. The one a month ago was not a success so I have not swallowed anything since March 2008. Wish me luck. Charm you should not be discouraged by my lack of recovering swallowing ability. We are all different and recover at our own pace - you knew this I just needed to say it. Take care.
11/1999 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2000 Met(s) in lymph nodes - modRND 2/2000-4/2000 RT ~6 weeks end of 2006 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2008 SCC BOT - surgery / PEG installed 2/2008 chemo & RT 4/2008 last time I consumed solid food by mouth
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Good luck on the stretching. Last week, my ENT surgeon reviewed the DVD of my 3rd MBS and concluded that an esophageal dilation would not help me. My VitalStim speech therapist moved my next MBS up to Nov 19th as I will have then completed 24 sessions. It was discouraging to realize that the new 2.7 Million dollar NIH clinical trial on vitalStim type therapy explictly excluded patients like me for failing these eligibilty requirements as they indicate permanent swallowing damage. [quote]# surgery to tongue if less than � of oral tongue or less than � of tongue base resected # no floor of mouth muscles resected # All primary tumor resections should predate the radiation treatment.[/quote] I am already rationalizing why a lifetime PEG may be good: no tooth decay, no eating "cardboard food" with no taste, insurance pays for my food, and of course, the ability to have Wine at happy hour. Good luck
65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Just a quick update: going to my 21st VitalStim session this afternoon and am up to 360 "forceful swallows" of "nectar". After this next MBS, planning on ditching VitalStim as I will have done 24 of them and all their literature as well as posters here indicate that if it was going to work, it would have worked by now. Here is the link to the NIH study I mentioned, even though it is using a different machine than the VitalStim - same principles. I can see now why they excluded people like me from this study NIH study on swallowing 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
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11/1999 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2000 Met(s) in lymph nodes - modRND 2/2000-4/2000 RT ~6 weeks end of 2006 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2008 SCC BOT - surgery / PEG installed 2/2008 chemo & RT 4/2008 last time I consumed solid food by mouth
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | same old same old airkitty I won't know until the next MBS on Nov 19th how I am doing.
65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
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