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I am moving this entire topic to alternative treatments. I have also deleted your link since we also do not allow promotion here.

I caution you that you have no facts. It will be 5 years until you know whether or not this worked. For those of you looking for the easy way out I encourage you to look at this link:
http://www.quackwatch.org/00AboutQuackwatch/altseek.html

I also had a large tumor that had comnpletely disappeared by the midpoint CT scan. It didn't mean I was cured. I hope that you are right because my doctors told me that people who didn't complete their treatment protocol typically had a poor prognosis and we seen that here a lot.


Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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There is NO clinical evidence, other than anecdotal, that your husband's remission was related to his actions. He was already part way through treatments which likely had some impact. There are no peer reviewed published papers that show that raw foods cure anything. When you have some science that supports what you have claimed, you may post about it again. PLease understand that scientific evidence means from a reputable source published in peer review journals, and which has been repeatedly duplicated with similar outcomes. Until then, I am pleased that your husband is well, but I feel that your post encourage people - whom you have no idea what their cancer status is, to engage in a behavior that there is no scientific evidence that is peer reviewed will help them. On these boards that is not something you may do. The board moderators have agreed to leave this post up, delete the link to the site which has no evidence based information, and close this thread. You may think this small minded, wrong, prejudiced, influenced by conventional medicine, or whatever you care to. Bottom line, if this was working on everyone, it would not remain in the shadows, and everyone of the 500,000 cancer patients in the US each year would be doing it and surviving. The truth is they are not, and that is NOT because this idea has not been floated all over the web and other mediums for years.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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Remember me? I'm the one who had the husband diagnosed 11/2008 with T2N1M0 base of tongue, left lymph node swollen, etc...
And after he did 5 radiations and one chemo (Jan 2009), he opted out of any further treatment from the medical establishment, and went on a raw food diet, Budwig diet, supplements, meditation/stress reduction, exercise and engorged our library of books with alternative cancer options.
I was removed from the boards because of the non-medical way in which my spouse chose to "treat" his cancer, which perhaps was a kindness for others. (We call it starving that sucker.) I was wished well, and invited back "when his cancer returns". I'm back, and will hope that there is a more congenial environment for this update.
May 2011. He is still free of cancer, per his doctor who was amazed back in 2009, one year after diagnosing him. His neck has scar tissue in the lymph node (feels like a small marble, down from being about the size of his thumb). Cancer on the base of the tongue is GONE (without surgical removal).
Books we both highly recommend: "Anti Cancer, A New Way of Life" by David Servan-Schreiber, MD, PhD., "Cancer, Step Out of the Box" by Ty Bollinger, and the one that really started us on his path of beating the cancer, "Cancer Free" by Bill Henderson.
I wish you all well in dealing with this disease. As my spouse is wont to say, "It's the treatments that kill you."

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Elin, artist and Wife to Ron, neck lump 8/08
Ron, age 68, Dx 11/23/08, T2N2bMx BOT Stage IV, treatments begin January. cisplatin x 3 and rads 35x, one chemo down and rads x4 as of 1/20.
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From what we now know about BOT cancers, which we didn't even know a year ago, is they respond better to treatments than other oral cancers. There are even clinical trials running now to see if patients can receive less, perhaps half as much radiation and less chemo and have the same positive end results. They are definitely less aggressive even in late stages, and have survival advantages over other oral cancers in significant numbers. This is all peer reviewed published.

While I am pleased to hear that he is cancer free, who can say why that is, his partial treatments? His raw diet? Divine intervention? No one knows. And no one will ever know. In that light, the foundation's position is the same. We have watched too many die from treatment refusal or termination, and his outcome is certainly not the norm, not applicable to everyone, and that is well documented. While we are pleased for him and you, the foundation's position is that patients should follow their doctors advice whatever that might be, which has documentable success rates and survival rates particularly now in BOT cancers. Anyone that does otherwise is walking into a world of unproven ideas that have not stood up to the rigors of scientific exploration, and the outcome of that could be anything, and from our experience and the published data, it is ill advised to do what this person says they did with these results.

I wish you and your husband long and cancer free, happy lives.

As was clearly stated by many members before in your last post about his survival, there is no evidence that what you did made any difference. Thank you for the update, but OCF will not let these forums become another debate about alternative ideas that have no scientific evidence to support them. This thread is locked for comments


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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