#55816 11-16-2004 09:43 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Member | OP Member Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 12 | Since completing my radiation and chemo for SQC cancer at the base of my tongue 3 weeks ago, I have recently noticed that I have a continuous humming sound in my ears. The Doctor called it Tinnitus and said it is a possible side effect of the chemo. I had a hearing test done and seem to have also lost my high pitch hearing as well. Unfortunately he said there is nothing that can be done for the humming sound, but they say the high pitch hearing problem may be corrected by a hearing aid. Have any of you experienced this problem and if so did it go away or what did you do about it? Thanks for your comments.
Terry
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#55817 11-17-2004 12:20 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 146 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 146 | Hi Terry,
I also have constant humming in my ears and my ENT said the same thing, that it is a possible side effect of the chemo (cisplatin) that I had. He, too, said that there is nothing that can be done. I just hit my 1 year mark since completing treatments and the humming is still there. I've sort of gotten use to it except those times when it's really loud. I just wish it would start playing a different tune!
Take care,
Nancy
Stage IV oral cancer (tongue), T3N2, total glossectomy with right and left modified neck dissection 7/03, rad /chemo ended 11/03
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#55818 11-17-2004 12:41 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 30 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 30 | I had my last radation April 28, 2003 and no chemo but I have very hard wax in my ears. They said it is from the radation and I have to go every two to three months to get it cleaned out. Mary Lee | | |
#55819 11-17-2004 01:30 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 137 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 137 | Hello everyone, this to is happening to me. I have to go about every 4 months to have my ears FLUSHED. It doesn't really hurt hurt. The side I hade the surgery on hurts the worst. The stuff he gets out is hard dried up blood. It feels good for about 4 days, then it is slowly closing back up. Doc says it may always be this way. Mine is due to the radiation and the fact that my mouth was held open for so long during surgery. Who would have ever thought. It is all these things that no one tells us about. Live and live with it.....you thought I was going to say LEARN. LOL......There is only living with all this.........Always Miss Vicki | | |
#55820 11-17-2004 02:43 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 | I STILL have the hard wax problem to some extent -- from time to time I can feel the pressure building up and over-the-counter ear drops can't entirely solve the problem. The people at my eye/ear clinic have said I'll just have to keep having it flushed out when it reaches that stage.
Cathy
Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
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#55821 11-17-2004 06:51 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I still have tinnitus to some degree but it's probably from years of being a musician. It was worse after the chemo - especially if you had Cisplatin. It should get better over time. In subsequent hearing tests, my high freqency response actually improved. Ear wax will cut down the HF response.
I saw a cartoon one time that said if you have a constant humming then they will put you in touch with a compulsive toe tapper.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#55822 11-18-2004 11:51 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | I notice the ringing in my ears mostly when I can not get to sleep and when I want it really quiet...it just gets louder and louder. It reminds me of locusts when I was growing up in Kansas. I read once that a standard question asked of people in psychiatric therapy is if they hear a ringing in their ears. Now, I don't know if it is from the Cisplatin or before treatment. What a dilemma. It's one of those things I just keep quiet about when the doctor is asking questions Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#55823 11-18-2004 04:07 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 76 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 76 | Hi Terry, The tinnitus I have had was for the year prior to my glossectomy and for about 3-4 months afterward, not having had Chemo or Rad I was told that it was from referred pain from tongue base and YES it does get better! I have noticed recurrences but then that may be because there is more cancer in my thyroid? LOL Ed I dont mention the little people making noises anymore either 
01/04 SCC of tongue base, T1N0M0 03/04 Partial glossectomy 04/04 Rad 12/04 Throidectomy(follicular cancer)
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#55824 11-21-2004 03:47 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 482 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 482 | Terry, I have the buzzing also. Had cisplatin and the oncologist said it was due to that. Went to a hearing specialist and was tested and the high end is gone for me as well. The doctor said it was permanent as the ciplatin destoys the functionality of the hair-like things in the ear that enable us to hear. Oh well, part of the "new normal".
Regards, Kirk Georgia Stage IV, T1N2aM0, right tonsil primary, Tonsilectomy 11/03, 35 rad/3cisplatin chemo, right neck dissection 1/04 - 5/04.
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#55825 11-22-2004 01:29 PM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 148 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 148 | Terry and Kirk,
My doctor is involved in a study regenerating cochlear hair. Here's hoping all goes well and it can make a difference for those needing it in their new normal. I don't have specifics about the study, but it is listed in his vitae.
Sincerely, Lisa
Lisa SCC of Tongue Stage 1 (T1,N0,M0) partial glossectomy,modified neck dissection 4/14/03
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#55826 11-22-2004 03:12 PM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 206 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 206 | Hi All, I had Cisplatin in 1989, and this is 2004 and I still have the ringing in my ears. I also have hearing loss as well. Thank you It's nice to know what caused it. Cathy
Cathy
SCCA Stage IV diagnosed 01/90 base of tongue with 1/2 removed. With neck resection, radiation and chemo
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#55827 11-22-2004 04:49 PM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 217 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 217 | Hi, everyone. Tom has had tinnitis for a long time now, and he says it is more pronounced since the chemo. He, too, has lost the high-end pitch recognition...it was kind of funny when he was having his hearing test and I sat with him. I could hear all those high notes, and had to keep myself from signaling for him!  I've noticed that I have to repeat EVERYTHING now unless I am looking directly at him. I suppose a hearing aid will be in his near future.
Nicki, wife of Thomas dx July 2004, SCC, Stage 4 Tonsil. Tx begun 8/4/04. Cisplatin/Xeloda x 4; IMRT 7 wks, 8/7 - 10/25/04 Modified Radical Dissection (right), Selective Dissection (Left) 12/10/04.
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#55828 11-23-2004 05:04 AM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 206 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 206 | Hi everyone, Has anyone ever noticed that people that have cancer live in the eastern, southern,CA and some in ths middle part of the country. I wonder why that is? I've been noticeing it more lately. Thanks, Cathy
Cathy
SCCA Stage IV diagnosed 01/90 base of tongue with 1/2 removed. With neck resection, radiation and chemo
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#55829 11-29-2004 11:49 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 104 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 104 | Hey Cathy, I am from the Pacific Northwest, moved to Arizona and was Dx'd 8 months later. I knew I shouldn't have moved south. I also have tinnitus both ears (radiated both sides) and high pitch loss in right ear (surgery side). Most of the time the tinnitus doesn't really bother me, although it is there all the time. But there are times when I think it is going to drive me crazier than I already am. I thought it was just me because the professionals that I asked about it told me that surgery and radiation should have nothing to do with it. Why am I not surprised to find out that they were wrong. Jack .......... Dx 1/15/97 SCC rt. tonsil met to rt lymph node Stg IV, Srgry 1/23/97 tonsillectomy & mod radical neck dissection, Radiation 35 trtmnts both sides | | |
#55830 01-03-2006 07:34 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7 Member | Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7 | I have had tinnitus for years before my cancer and the usual answer is there is no cure. I read an article about it and it said some people go to clinics to learn how to live with it. It gave the example of William Shatner as having been too close to an explosion during Star Trek and getting tinnitus and going to a clinic to learn to live with it. I hope the doctor involved in a study regenerating cochlear hair has some luck. There does not appear to be much work being done on tinnitus. | | |
#55831 01-04-2006 01:57 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 | One of the more common side effects wih cisplatin is tinnitus and loss of high-end hearing. This is one reason that my husband's MO did not want to give him cisplatin as he already has some high-end hearing loss (the other was risk of exacerbating his benign hand tremor, as cis also can cause peripheral neuropathy). Instead Barry was given carboplatin with as good clinical results as with the older drug (and no hearing loss per post-treatment audiology exam). We knew the risks of cisplatin when we met with the MO and this was discussed prior to his treatment plan being developed.
Some prople have reported cisplatin-induced tinnitus resolving or getting less serious over time, but the high-end hearing loss is supposedly permanent. Have heard two contrasting opinions as to whether it can be corrected with a hearing aid; it would certainly be worth consulting an audiologist. I personally have some tinnitus from unknown causes and also have been unable to find a solution that works for me, but our ENT did say that some people get relief from certain supplements or medications. (Check with Tinnitus foundation on web). Mine is not bad and I just live with it.
Gail
CG to husband Barry, dx. 7/21/05, age 66, SCC rgt. tonsil, BOT, 2 nodes (stg. IV), HPV+, tonsillectomy, 7x carboplatin, 35x tomoTherapy IMRT w/ Ethyol @ Johns Hopkins, thru treatment 9/28/05, HPV vaccine trial 12/06-present. Looking good!
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#55832 01-09-2006 06:28 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 21 Member | Member Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 21 | Just to add my two cents worth, I had three doses of cisplatin 1 every three weeks during my radiation. I have just had a follow up and because I complained of hearing problems I had a test. I have a slight loss at high end but nothing too serious. I also have developed peripheral neuropathy in my fingers and feet, I am waiting to see Oncology about this but it is thought to be a side effect of the cisplatin. It is a minor annoyance. | | |
#55833 01-09-2006 06:21 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 | Here is another two cents' worth. I had two treatments with cisplatin, complained of weird hearing problems that had resolved by time of next treatment, but was switched post haste to carboplatin for the remainder. As far as the peripheral neuropathy, my toes were badly affected, but that all resolved after several months, perhaps as long as a year. Do not give up hope. | | |
#55834 02-02-2006 08:30 PM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Member | Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 | one dose of cisplatin was enough to turn my everyday tinnitus into something really unpleasant (A flat 2 octaves above middle C). I have been using ginko biloba for a year or so. No cure but it does seem to mitigate the noise somewhat. I googled tinnitus one day and it was the only thing available.
kem
scc rt tonsil, T1N2A, primary excised with radical neck disection, 35 radio trtmnts, 1x cisplatin.
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#55835 02-03-2006 01:04 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | I just have to get the last word in... I only notice the ringing in my ears when someone asks me. As I read the posts, I could hear the locusts around me. My feet get cold often, too. And the L'Hermittes (aka the Sabrina butt dance)  never went away.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#55836 02-26-2007 06:23 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 349 Likes: 2 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 349 Likes: 2 | I too have terrible, disabling tinnitus, likely from the Cisplatinum. Am feeling desparate and afraid. The annoyance is unbearable and I don't know how long I can tolerate it! It seems to be just getting worse and my hearing is getting terrible. Don't know what to do, but looks fairly hopeless from the information out there on the internet. Any other information or hope? PS: Have had millions of other "side effects" and things pop up but they are seem to eventually disappear  Guess i was hoping this would have too... I have neglected to be active on this board for a number of reasons, so my appologies to anyone I haven't kept in touch with. I'll update on the correct forum.
Michael | 53 | SCC | Right Tonsil | Dx'd: 06-10-05 | STAGE IV, T3N2bM0 | 3 Nodes R Side | MRND & Tonsillectomy 06/29/05 Dr Fee/Stanford | 8 wks Rad/Chemo startd August 15th @ MSKCC, NY | Tx Ended: 09-27-05 | Cancer free at 16+ Yrs | After-Effects of Tx: Thyroid function is 0, ok salivary function, tinnitus, some scars, neck/face asymmetry, gastric reflux. 2017 dysphagia, L Carotid stent / 2019, R Carotid occluded not eligible for stent.2022 dental issues, possible ORN, memory/recall challenges.
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#55837 02-28-2007 01:02 PM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 583 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 583 | I too will chime in with the rest of you.
Lost high side of hearing, have the ringing. There are times it is not so noticeable.
Have trouble hearing in large room with others. Talked to Dr. about hearing aid. It would only magnify back ground noise. Which that is what makes it hard to hear.
Never new about the ear wax problem. Thanks for that informtion.
Take care Diane
2004 SCC R.tip 1/4 tongue Oct. 2005 R. Neck SCC cancer/Chemo Cisplatin 2x/8wks. Rad. Removed Jugular vein, Lymph gland & some neck muscle. TX finished 1/20/06... B.Cancer 3/29/07 Finished 6/07 Bi-op 7/15/09 SCC in-situ, laser surgery removed from 1st. sight. Right jaw replacement 11/3/14. 9 yrs cancer free as of Jan. 2015
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) | "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 | Hi, we know that certain chemo therapies such as Cisplatin can cause nerve damage, including peripheral neuropathy and tinnitus (ringing in the ears). My father developed tinnitus for unrelated reasons several years ago and achieved relief with the loan of very expensive European "noise generators". However, I suspect that a simple white noise generator might achieve similar benefits, and it turns out that there are all kinds of free or inexpensive "white noise generators" available for iPhone/iPad/iPod etc., such as this one: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/white-noise-box/id406810651?mt=8I find the app to be well made. I can't say for certain it would help, but anyone suffering from tinnitus would be foolish to not give it a try? I'm just shy of one year out from my treatment and initially was given a clear bill of health when it came to Cisplatin side-effects, but later developed some neuropathy in my feet, and now I'm starting to wonder if I'm hearing high-pitched ringing in my ears. Who knows, I may need this myself in time. Beware possible late-onset side-effects of chemo. -Seth
47 yr old male non-smoker, social drinker, fit. Jan'10, Stg3 rt tonsil+rt neck SCC, HPV+, rad+chmo Vancouver Cda. 2yr clear Apr'12 London UK. Apr'13 mets recur to lymph btw left lung & aorta, 3x Cisplatin+5FUchemo+20 rad, was all clear but 6-mo PET-CT shows mets to pleura around left lung, participating in St 1 trial of GDC-0980. GDC lost effect and ended July'14, bad atrial fibrillation requiring hospitalisation, start more standard chemo 10 Sep 2014. Sadly has passed away, notified Jan 2015.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) | "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 | Well look at this, here's a web based white noise generator: http://www.simplynoise.com/Anybody suffering from tinnitus might benefit from white noise therapy, or at least it might provide temporary "masking" relief. Please let us know! -Seth
47 yr old male non-smoker, social drinker, fit. Jan'10, Stg3 rt tonsil+rt neck SCC, HPV+, rad+chmo Vancouver Cda. 2yr clear Apr'12 London UK. Apr'13 mets recur to lymph btw left lung & aorta, 3x Cisplatin+5FUchemo+20 rad, was all clear but 6-mo PET-CT shows mets to pleura around left lung, participating in St 1 trial of GDC-0980. GDC lost effect and ended July'14, bad atrial fibrillation requiring hospitalisation, start more standard chemo 10 Sep 2014. Sadly has passed away, notified Jan 2015.
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