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#47630 02-15-2007 03:36 AM
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lee,

Look into the Carnation Instant Breakfast VHC. It has almost double the calories of Ensure or Boost Plus so you would have to swallow as much when the pain and nausea worsen.

Hang in there. You can do it...you will find the mental strenght. It is your life that you are fighting for and there isn't any better reason than that to show this cancer who's boss.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Todd also has lost taste for all foods. He just had first Chemo and into 2 week of rad. Any suggestions on foods that he can tolerate?


SCC Tonsils. DX 11/06. Stage 3/4. IMRTX38. Chemo: Cisplatin 3 cycles. Ended TX 4/27/07
#47632 02-15-2007 06:11 AM
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Linda,
I lost all taste for foods at the third week of chemo/rad and, eventually, quit eating altogether and lived solely on my PEG for several months. However, once I began to be able to swallow again my favorites were chocolate milkshakes that I would make at home, and matzo ball soup, which, unbelievably sustained me two meals a day for over a year.
The good news is that in the past couple of years I have regained the ability to swallow and taste just about anything that is not too spicy, even including breads, nuts and even popcorn. (with a lot of water to wash any and all of this stuff down, of course)
My wife and I went out last night for a wonderful Valentine's dinner and I ate a delicious lightly blackened red fish with crabmeat and lime butter. I enjoyed the taste of the salad and of the fish and vegetables as much as I ever did before cancer treatment. Desserts also taste wonderful again. Strangely cokes and Dr. Pepper's taste like unsweetened syrup.
By the way, four and one half years after treatments...I still really like chocolate Hi Protein Boost and always keep it in my office and golf bag for snacks. My golf partners like it too and have taken to pinching Boost from my locker and golf bag!

Best of luck,
Danny G.


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Diagnosed July 1, 2002, chemo and radiation treatments completed beginning of Sept/02.
#47633 02-15-2007 07:37 AM
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Toward the end of my husband's radiation I was buying out the turkey pot pie soup and chicken pot pie soup at the grocery. One is Campbells the other Progresso. Besides scrambled eggs (with milk added for moisture) and boost that was about it. He also liked the Campbells double noodle chicken soups, but the cream ones have more calories.


Cindy,cg to Chuck,SCC unknown primary,modified neck dissection 3/06,IMRT x33 started 4/12/06,finished 5/26/06
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Again, thanks everyone. I am having luck with the eggs over easy, grits, and shells and cheese really watered down. I see my onc. tomorrow for labs so we'll see how it goes. I am having a little troulble finding the carnation VHC. I'll keep looking. I noticed too, that my jaws are tightening up overnight. I think it is all so odd because it happens over time and not right after a treatment. It's just hard to understand I guess because I'm used to either being sick or not, with this it's just strangely different. Thanks Again. Your posts really helped me find some things to keep my health up as well as encourage me.


Lee, age 33, stage 4a, T2N2bM0, Tumor left tonsil (removed), 2 left side nodes removed (poorly differientiatied)total of 3 nodes involved. Treatment IMRT x33/ 2x Cysplatin completed. Good Health and Good Help to you.
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Lee,

You have to order the VHC from a pharmacy. My jaw did the same as yours and it still does today. I use a stack of tongue depressors to stretch my jaw a couple of times a day. Some other folks use a device called therabite I think, maybe they'll come along and tell you about it. It's very important that you keep your jaw working properly.


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60 yr old. Dx Jun 06 with BOT Stage IV. Neck dissesction on 19 Jun 06. Started Tx on 21 Aug 06/completed 33 IMRTs and 3 CT (2 Cisplat & 1 Carboplat) on 5 Oct 06.
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Lee, Tim's right about the jaw issues. I have had a rough time with it as well. I have a close relative who is an oral surgeon, and he made me an acrylic wedge for stretching the jaw muscles. I have also had great success with massage therapy to ease some of the trismus.

After my radiation ended last fall, I was barely able to put one finger between my teeth. After three massages on my jaw, neck, shoulder and upper back, that increased by over 100%.

Even with the improvement, it still gets really stiff if I don't exercise it regularly. The Therabite system works well, but it is several hundred dollars, and I think the tongue depressors or a wedge work equally well, and certainly cost a lot less.
Wayne


SCC left mandible TIVN0M0 40% of jaw removed, rebuilt using fibula, titanium and tissue from forearm.June 06. 30 IMRT Aug.-Oct. 06
#47637 02-19-2007 12:51 PM
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Lee,

I found yawning helped stretch my muscles a lot and I learned how to control the yawn when it became painful. I never needed anything else but I didn't have any surgery.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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lee33:
I have the same issues with getting my mouth open, especially in the morning or when I've not opened/stretched for a while. I agree with the posts above regarding the tongue depressors and yawning. After seeing a therapist and going through a few massages, and doing some simple exercises for my jaw and tongue, things started getting better. I also started using Biotene moisturizing gum, which has helped me with both my jaw as well as working my tongue. My therapist did say to take it easy with the gum and not over do it for long periods, but I chew a couple pieces a day. I found it neat to chew gum for the first time in over a year even if it wasn't for very long periods. You might want to run that by your Dr. first. Glad to hear the eggs and grits are working for you. I also had luck with some cereals by letting them soak in milk and get mushy first.
Sounds like you're doing great!!
Best Wishes,

Steve


SCC right side BOT/FOM; DX 1-25-06; Neck dissection/25% of tongue removed 2-17-06. Stage 2 Recurrence 7-06: IMRTX35 & 3X Cisplatin ended 10-18-06. Tumor found 03/18/13; Partial Glossectomy 03/28/13 left lateral tongue. Nov. 2014; headaches,lump on left side of throat. Radical Neck Dissection 12-17-14; Tumor into nerves/jugular; Surgery successful, IMRTX30 & 7X Erbotux. Scan 06-03-15; NED! 06-02-16; Mets to left Humerus bone and lesion on lungs-here We go again! Never, Ever Give Up!

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#47639 02-25-2007 03:11 AM
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Lee,

I am 10 treatments in and know what you mean! I have lost all taste except for strawberry which I can taste on the outside of my tounge like it is very far away(if that makes sense). I was not quite ready for how fast the pain set in for me, it was literally overnight. Good luck and I hope all goes well for the rest of your treatments!

BILL


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33IMRT with 6taxol/carboplantin
last treatment will be 3/28/2007!
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