#42288 02-17-2003 03:59 PM | Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 59 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 59 | Gary: I must have missed the info on the waterpik, what do you use this for?? Thanks.
Mike D.
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#42289 02-17-2003 04:40 PM | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 235 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 235 | Hi Gary, I'm so glad to hear that things have improved greatly for you! The things you are doing, sure seem to be doing the trick, so keep it up! I also want to know more about the waterpik. Besides helping to keep your teeth and gums clean, what else is it supposed to help with? Can this help with mouth sores?
DonnaJean
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#42290 02-17-2003 09:18 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I'm using the WaterPik to take the place of flossing since I have been told that I can't do that. (I didn't have any teeth pulled) I also use the tongue cleaner accessory to cut the thick saliva. It works pretty well. I try to avoid the mouth sores however as they're pretty sensitive. I'm trying to avoid Thrush. Eating is getting very difficult now I started making protein shakes today and stocked up on Boost Plus on sale at Rite Aid 2 for one.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#42291 02-18-2003 05:41 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 188 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 188 | Hi guys and gals.........I used the water pic after my mouth/teeth became too sore to brush. I found it only got rid of the gunk (thick saliva) but it was soothing in my oral cavity. I used both cold and warm water depending on what I cold tolerate. Hope this helps. Bioteen mouthwash is a lifesaver too. Sincerely, Donna
SCC first time 1989, with a diagnoses of 'cancer in situ' removed lesion, no other treatments. SCC recurrence 1997 of tongue and floor of the mouth. Stage III /IV Hemmiglossectomy (removed over 60% of tongue/ floor of the mouth), free flap, modified neck, RAD and Chemo(cisplatin, 5fu) simutainously. Cancer free 6, yes, six, years!
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#42292 02-18-2003 12:49 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 | The water pik sound like a great idea, wish I had thought of that during my treatments. Oh well.
On the subject of tooth care, though, anyone have any idea what brand of toothpaste still has decent flouride treatment but not so much of the mint/flavoring/etc? The mint was terribly uncomfortable on the sore areas, almost painful. Using a toothpaste now called Fluocaril, seems not so strong in the taste department, has high flouride level.
Hang in there Gary, it's a literal pain while this is going on, but you do feel better afterward. Bob
SCC Tongue, stage IV diagnosed Sept, 2002, 1st radical neck dissection left side in Sept, followed by RAD/Chemo. Discovered spread to right side nodes March 2003, second radical neck dissection April, followed by more RAD/Chemo.
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#42293 02-18-2003 12:58 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,916 Likes: 63 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,916 Likes: 63 | Biotene toothpaste is my choice. It has the floride, and in addition, enzymes (which without saliva you are missing) that help fight bacteria. It has a minimum of mint, so it doesn't burn my mouth like my old pre-cancer favorite Crest. The foundation has been contacted by a new comnpany that is interested in introducing a similar, but much more advanced, enzyme based toothpaste for those with xerostomia. I wil keep everyone here posted about the product as I learn more about its availability. Remember that no toothpaste is going to have the flouride level of using a tray and gel in the evenings. Patients need to stay after the flouride trays to keep caries at bay.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | |
#42294 02-20-2003 11:24 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Had a second CAT scan yesterday and the entire airway is open again. The tumor has all but vanished. They are altering the IMRT programming as a result (it'll still be 33 treatments though). Day 3 post chemo and had a rough day -almost went back to ER (w/fever) But managed to get enough pain killers down me (pink magic, Vicodin and a transdural Fentnyl pain patch and that did the trick) so I could get enough water and food in me to restabilize.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#42295 02-21-2003 03:59 PM | Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 59 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 59 | Hi Bob: I found that the toothpaste from BioTene, and a couple of the toothpaste for sensitive teeth worked pretty well. Did not take away all the discomfort but definitely helped.
Mike D.
Daignosed06/2002, w/Laryngeal cancer, 1st stage | | |
#42296 03-02-2003 05:20 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Hi All, I have 13 radiation treatments left to go. I am not experiencing enough pain to warrant any kind of pain killers or "pink magic" (It is a little sensitive to salty things though). Still suffering from periodic nausea and I'm wondering if that's the radiation buildup kicking in? I have lost a fair amount of weight but the doctor doesn't think I need a PEG. Everything tastes awful and my sense of smell seems to be intensified -strange. I have to force myself to eat. I am getting my 2-3 L. of water a day though.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#42297 03-03-2003 04:02 AM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 642 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 642 | Gary, I am glad that things are going well for you. I don't know how you can make it without a PEG. I did not eat for months and even now, 6 months post treatment both my appetite and what I can eat are limited...I could not have survived without the PEG. Keep up the good work.
Danny G.
Stage IV Base of Tongue SCC Diagnosed July 1, 2002, chemo and radiation treatments completed beginning of Sept/02.
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