#41107 05-02-2007 06:21 AM | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 | I have noticed, from reading this forum, that many of you had your neck incision stapled because you mention having to have the staples removed. My neck incision was glued. I haven't heard anyone else mention this. Am I the only one and is this something new or uncommon?
11/28/2006. Left lateral tongue, partial glossectomy, T3, moderately differentiated. 12 lymph nodes from neck, all clear. IMRT, 30X, ended 02/21/2007.
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#41108 05-02-2007 01:10 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Hi Lamont,
Just to throw out another method, I had sutures that had to be cut and removed about a week after surgery. Gluing sounds like the ideal situation as there is nothing to remove. I wonder if the size of the incision determines if gluing can be done.
Just as a point of information, I had no problems with handling anything that was done to me, but I almost fainted when the sutures were removed. Considering that I am a dentist and I place sutures and remove them, I was quite surprised at my reaction. Would have preferred the glue.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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#41109 05-02-2007 01:39 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 446 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 446 | I know it isn't new...gluing incisions, that is. Cynoacrylic glue (crazy glue) was orignally developed in the Vietnam war era as a surgical adhesive.
My neck dissection was sutured as well. Jerry, you weren't alone; It was a really good thing I was lying down when they started taking out sutures...I didn't have too far to fall after I fainted! Wayne
SCC left mandible TIVN0M0 40% of jaw removed, rebuilt using fibula, titanium and tissue from forearm.June 06. 30 IMRT Aug.-Oct. 06
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#41110 05-02-2007 01:51 PM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 735 | I had sutures as well ..One set removed and the other disolved. with some kinda tape like stuff over it. The set removed ..I dunno how I felt I was still whinning about the removal of the drain tube in my neck ...that I was told "wasn't going to hurt"..WELL I BEG TO DIFFER...I tell ya I came off the bed after that !
Sharlee 35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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#41111 05-02-2007 02:24 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 | Lamont,
I see you were glued at Emory as was I. I had a 3" incision on right side of my neck. My ENT doing the surgery told me that gluing minimized scarring. Mine was done back in September and is now virtually invisible. Of course, I'm 60 and already wrinkled and the scar runs down the center of a wrinkle that was already there.
The right side of my neck is also still numb and the ENT said it could take 6 months to a year before the feeling came back. It's now a bit over 7 months and it still seems just as numb as ever. It just feels weird when shaving and not feeling anything when running the razor over that area.
Bill D.
Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.
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#41112 05-02-2007 03:40 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 66 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 66 | You guys should have gone through with me.... I had STAPLES. I loooked like I had a zipper running aorund my neck. The drain was a bitch but quick and overwith, but the removal with the pliers of the staples seemed to last forever. In perspective though, no big deal in comparison to all that has been done to me.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | |
#41113 05-02-2007 04:01 PM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 | Bill D......What did they do through that 3" incision?? Mine is about 12" at least, total..maybe a few more inches. It starts under my chin, goes almost straight down, nearly to my collarbone, and back up to behind my ear. It was stapled also...and yes, you do look like one of hte Adams family members, with that zipper and a drain dangling from beneath it. They removed about half of the staples one week, and the other half the next week. My scar is ok, but it is not invisible. It is not unsightly, though I wouldn't mind it being a little less visible.....small potatoes with all the other stuff done to me, as others have said.
Colleen--T-2N0M0 SCC dx'd 12/28/05...Hemi-maxillectomy, partial palatectomy, neck dissection 1/4/06....clear margins, neg. nodes....no radiation, no chemo....Cancer-free at 4 years!
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#41114 05-03-2007 01:59 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | Another stapled patient here. I had a cervical spinal fusion in February, so they used the same line, except this one goes basically ear to ear around the neck. I had 3 drains, which they removed on successive days in the hospital. Staple removal wasn't bad.
I still think I look like the understudy in Young Frankenstein, but my wife and son say it is hardly noticeable. I pay them well to lie . . . ;-)
Between the fusion and the neck dissection, I almost wish they would put a zipper in! All in all though, the neck dissection has been much less of a hassle than I expected. I had the surgery late on a Thursday afternoon, was discharged Monday morning, was working from home for 7 days, as they would not let me drive, and back at work the follwing Tuesday. Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
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#41115 05-03-2007 02:38 AM | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 | Bill D., My experience sounds identical to yours except my incision is probably 6 to 8 inches. Mine also is in a natural crease so, it is not very noticeable. I don't understand why they don't use glue for all of them. It was totally painless and no staple scars.I have reached the 5 month mark and, like you Bill, my neck is still totally numb. Also, regarding shaving, I now only have to shave the tops of my cheeks, mustache and lower neck area as the radiation killed off the rest of my facial hair. I didn't know you got free electrolysis with radiation. What a deal.
11/28/2006. Left lateral tongue, partial glossectomy, T3, moderately differentiated. 12 lymph nodes from neck, all clear. IMRT, 30X, ended 02/21/2007.
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#41116 05-03-2007 05:26 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | Staples for us .53 of them !Rob looked like Frankensteins monster!!
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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