| Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | At 2 years out I started having neck spasms from fibrosis due to radiation damage to the neck muscles. My understanding is that this is to be expected. For the past several years I started having problem with erratic blood pressure and the docs attempted to control this with BP medications. This was my first trip to the ER. Oddly I had a routine followup with my MO and it kept going up instead of down, like it typically does (I have "white coat" syndrome) . When it hit 181, systolic, they loaded me into a wheelchair and down to the ER I went. They fine tuned me and I was discharged later that day.
I started having Fevers of Unknown Origin (FUO) and had many tests to get to the bottom of that, culminating in another ER visit and subsequent 4 day hospital stay when it hit a nice toasty 105 degrees, in December of last year. All the while, I am seeing a pulmonologist, infectious disease specialist and a hepatologist (I have HCV) as well(. I have had about every blood test there is, as well as a bronchoscopy (with lavage), endoscopy with stomach biopsy, bone marrow biopsy (thats a fun one - I have the entire procedure video'd on Facebook) - Warning - not for the sqeamous! This all coming to a head a few weeks ago with a brainstem bleed (stroke) with a second bleed the very next day while having dinner in the ICU. Brian and I had discussed the BP issues and he sent me an article on Baro-reflex failure, long before I had the stroke, I started enlightening my medical team to this issue. They were reluctant to believe me, leading me down many diagnostic paths such as; the HCV has become active in the stomach (due to a thickened antrum) which showed up in a spiral CT during the 105 degree fever incident. I'm still being followed for MGUS (Monoclonal Gammopathy of Undetermined Significance) due to low B12 and a positive monoclonal antibody test (the MO was going down the non-hodgkins lymphoma route then). If there is a bright side to having a stroke, at least it finally connected to dots, so to speak. It turns out the FUO was caused by aspiration pneumonia. I see, from reading the posts, that's showing up more with long term survivors. Evidently I have had swallowing issues for quite some time (nobody told me - I just thought it was part of the "new normal"), on the right side (where the radiation was focused) and the left side, sort of, carried the load until the stroke. I failed the video fluoroscopy test and then the full extent of the swallowing issues was visualized. I am hoping that rehab allows me to resume at least some swallowing function in the near future. I the meantime, I had to have a peg installed, which I fought vehemently during my original treatment, (sooner or later its going to get ya!) I was always in the "not to peg" camp. It was that or death from pneumonia. I've only been out of the ICU for a week so PT is just getting started. They tried a new BP medication which caused such severe zerostomia, that I went back on Atenolol and hopefully that will help me from having another stroke (which occurred in the Pons area of the lower brainstem). I am recovering rapidly from the stroke (hopefully I won't have another) and there will be more revealed as I travel down this path.
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I forget to mention that during the next spiral CT study next month they're finally going to do an ultrasound of my carotid, I already know why the results are going to be. I can tell by looking.
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 | GEEEEEZ the drs probably run and hide when you come in the door.
(sorry couldn't help myself) you are a survivor my dear!!!!
Wow. Hopefully they get everything sorted out for you. It sounds like a perfect storm maladies. I am sorry about the stroke... assuming it happened in the hospital they likely dealt with it swiftly so I'm praying there's no permanent damage. With physio and a swallowing specialist I hope you will regain your swallowing. Hugs.
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Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Gary, I don't know even how to wrap my mind around this. Puts my own swallowing difficulties in huge perspective, although I must admit I perked up my cyber ears when you mentioned aspiration pneumonia and thinking it was normal.
All I can do is send best wishes and courage, which you clearly have in abundance. I'm really sorry about your having to get the PEG because like you that was something I resisted vehemently during my treatment. Hope it's something you can deal with without too much discomfort.
Please let me know if there's any way I can help you.
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Let me clarify. I didn't think that pneumonia was normal, only swallowing problems were. Until I was hospitalized it manifested itself as a one day fever that would resolve itself then recur a month later. As it got worse it was occurring weekly (but never lasting more than 1 day). It baffled my entire medical team. Classic FUO, typically is a fever that lasts several weeks. Even when I was in the hospital on December I had no pneumonia diagnosis.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 | I don't come here very often anymore, but saw your post. My husband is about 11 post treatment, too. The aspiration pneumonia has become a huge issue for him...he spent 2 weeks in the hospital (after I called 911 in the middle of the night) fighting a very severe case of it. He had been treated (probably more like "undertreated" for less severe cases for many months). Even though we both were pretty certain of the cause, the hospital doctors didn't want to acknowledge that it was aspiration pneumonia until they had done HIV test, tuberculosis tests, etc. It was a swallowing test that finally convinced them of how bad his post-radiation swallowing was, causing the aspiration. He went back on the dreaded PEG tube in Sept and is still on it, though doing swallowing therapy and trying to eat by mouth again.
Hate to scare people currently going through treatment, but the aftermath of this disease (more specifically, the treatment) is brutal. But, hey, at least he is still alive.
Husband Dx 12/02 Stage 4 Tonsil Cancer T1N2bM0; surgery, radiation, chemo 1/03 - 4/03.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Anita, I'm sorry to hear your news. It reaches a point that "...but...at least...still alive..." doesn't cut it any more. The brutality for many doesn't rear it's ugly head until years down the road; for others it was relentless and never let up.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 56 "OCF across the pond" Supporting Member (50+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 56 | "Brutality" is about right.
Mar 99 white patch tongue Dec 11 white patch changed shape. biopsy neg Sep 13 white patch ulcerated. Biopsy Nov 13 diag Tongue SCC T2N2BM0 poorly Differ. Dec 13 Hemigloss. neck dissect.Trach.Caldwell Luc (suspect cysts inside face, neg), teeth out. forearm flap, abdo graft Feb 14 PEG tube Feb/Mar 14. 30 x radio 60gy Grade 3 Mucositis, burns, hair loss, very ill. Nerve damage ear neck shoulder Jun 14 *now* PEG out. Have lost 98 lbs in 1 yr. Anorexia. Dysphagia, liquids only. Dysphasia. Fatigue.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | After taking liquid B-Max ND, B vitamin supplement since May, I managed to get my B12 levels to double normal (better than 75% of normal, which is a very good thing. My Igg numbers are unchanged so the MO will be following me indefinitely for MGUS. I have ditched the formula and eat only blended foods now and feels lots better - even gaining a little weight back. I see the MO next week so I'll update things in more detail then.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Saw the MO. He's happy with my progress but still testing me every 6 months for MGUS. More than likely, the MGUS is due to the hep C that I have.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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