| Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 | Yesterday I managed a meeting with Professor Kevin Harrington, my original private patient Oncologist in London who sent me to this trial I'm currently on. It was a very nice meeting, I learned he's just become a first time father (!) and is running on about one hour of sleep a night (I can hardly imagine his career and then that on top!).
Kevin seemed cautiously happy with my situation on the trial; of course we would all have preferred it if the drug caused me full remission, but 'stable' and slight reduction is pretty good.
Kevin went on to tell me that these are very exciting times in cancer, and that they are right now in negotiations to start work with a whole new range of treatments that he described as antibodies that defeat some cancer cells ability to 'hide' from one's immune system. He put it in 'Star Trek' terminology as a cancer cloaking device de-cloaking device.
There are early stories coming out of the US of a few people on trials there who have been dramatically helped by these new antibodies, and in some cases it is even starting to look like these could result in a full cure, not just another suppression tool!
These don't work on all cancers, nor for all people with the 'right' cancers yet, but Kevin figures the more time GDC-0980 buys me, the more likely there will be something appropriate and new to try if and when GDC stops forking for me (which could be any time).
One form of cancer that this new approach appears to work for is metastatic melanoma, which is one of those they have considered un-curable (same as with metastatic squamous cell carcinoma, which is mine).
Anyway, I thought all of that was pretty cool!
I have a CT scan in four days, on 6 May.
Onward through the fog we go.
47 yr old male non-smoker, social drinker, fit. Jan'10, Stg3 rt tonsil+rt neck SCC, HPV+, rad+chmo Vancouver Cda. 2yr clear Apr'12 London UK. Apr'13 mets recur to lymph btw left lung & aorta, 3x Cisplatin+5FUchemo+20 rad, was all clear but 6-mo PET-CT shows mets to pleura around left lung, participating in St 1 trial of GDC-0980. GDC lost effect and ended July'14, bad atrial fibrillation requiring hospitalisation, start more standard chemo 10 Sep 2014. Sadly has passed away, notified Jan 2015.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | It is so nice to see that you are feeling positive and enthusiastic in these trying times. My husband is on immunotherapy which is exactly what Professor Harrington told you about. The trials are being conducted all over the world albeit on small samples. It appears that some lung cancer patients have had tumour reduction and that is why they have now opened up John's particular trial to head and neck patients. Our MO feels these are exciting and interesting times. She also mentioned that if the drug John is on does not work well, there are others he can try.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 | Seth and Gloria- Thank you for a smiling start to my Saturday with your uplifting reports! I remember hearing through the blur last year our MO telling us that "immunotherapy is where it is going". My husband is almost halfway through the current 30 rounds of rads to treat these stinkin' mets. Best to you both, Mary
Mary Caregiver to husband, 60 Dx Sept '12 SCC BOT T2N2aMo, Stage IV, HPV+ Oct '12 Sub.Gland transfer Nov-Dec '12 IMRT x 33 + cisplatin x7 March '13 PET/CT: 2 spots on lungs; (BOT & neck lymphs NED) April '13 Biopsy: 1 = malignant right hilar lymph (met from HNSCC)p16 9/13: 33 rounds IMRT to lungs; carboplatinx7 CT w/contrast 12/30/13: 2 spots left hilar lymph. biopsy confirms SCC 30 rounds IMRT to left lung; treatment ended 5/29/14 Sept 2014--CT clear; December 2014 CT clear
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP "OCF Canuck, across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 153 | Alas my luck has changed. Benefitting from 20/20 hindsight, on about 8 July 2014 I began developing some new symptoms, which became chest pain and shorter shortness of breath.
On 15 July an early CT scan showed cancer growth, increased pleural effusion, first-time but minor pericardial effusion, and my trial was cancelled as the GDC-0980 had lost its effectiveness after 6 months; ok, not good, but time for the various teams to meet and agree Plan B. The Drug Development Unit (DDU) at Royal Marsden Sutton had another trial drug they wanted to try, but there needed to be a 4-week flush-out period, and I also needed to ensure that Prof Kevin Harrington was involved in decisions and he was away on holidays that week, but ok, we had some time.
But by 18 July I had become really sick and ended up in A&E with my heart in fast Atrial Fibrillation and a whole host of other new problems (suspected blood clot in my left lung, suspected infection, worsened pericardial effusion). I was in hospital for 12 days while they got my heart put back in its box. I ended up on Amiodarone for heart beat and a daily injected anti-coagulant for the blood clot (suspected). I developed 22 lbs of oedema swelling from my abdomen down (!!). I was very fortunate in the A&E I chose to go to, and my time at the Chelsea & Westminster Hospital (C&W, an NHS hospital) was significant for the fantastic staff who looked after me there. You Americans may wish to note that this has cost me exactly nothing, which is just amazing, really.
On the evening of 31 July Prof Harrington visited me at the C&W and agreed that he wanted to try to get me into a new trial, likely one of these 'antibody' drugs, which was the answer we were afraid to hope for (after all, he might have taken one look at me and concluded I was too sick to treat, for all I knew).
A few days later I had a phone conversation with Prof Harrington. It turned out that getting me into an antibody drug trial was proving problematic, but he revealed that in consultation with the DDU he had learned that they had analysed my tumour and confirmed a certain mutation in my cancer, meaning that as my cancer cells divide to grow, they are limited to just one of two 'repair' mechanisms that normal cells can employ. This strongly suggested a *different* class of drug on trial for me, an ATR inhibitor, that selectively blocks the cell repair path my cancer does employ, leaving the other path available for my normal cells. This was the trial that the DDU wanted to suggest, but at this time they had no slots available for multiple weeks, but it happened that Prof Harrington had his own trial of AZD6738 by Astrazenica on the go an he could get me straight in to that, and this would be at the Royal Marsden Hospital in Chelsea, much closer to home than the RM Sutton DDU. Ok, sounds good!
Last week my wife and I attended Prof Harrington's trial clinic and we discussed the trial; it's an early stage phase 1 trial and they don't really know how it will effect people yet, and also I'm likely to get a fairly low dose as I'll be entering the dose escalation phase at an early stage; good in that it's less likely to be toxic, but maybe not so good as it might be ineffective at the low dose. However this trial allows my dose to be ramped up as subsequent groups demonstrate the safety of higher doses.
This week I have been working from home basically waiting to be called back in to the RM Sutton for trial screening, and we hope to start the trial drug next week. I've been put into contact with an amazing local charity called Trinity Hospice that, yes, does provide palliative care services but also provides many other support services, and they've been here to see us once and have been very helpful already.
My heart has been behaving, my oedema has greatly reduced (though my feet and ankles are still swollen), and my digestion is improved. I suspect the Amiodarone heart pill is causing me constipation and bloating, but getting off that that scary drug will require a cardiology follow up which will hopefully be scheduled/arranged by Prof Harrington's team.
Alas, just yesterday and last night things have begun to turn a bit worse. It's been very difficult to sleep for quite a while now; having to sleep on just my left side so my 'good' lung is 'up' - any other position means the pericardial effusion fluid shifts and presses and I can't breathe. Until recently I had no pain to speak of, but now I seem to be rather quickly developing new aches in my chest. Is this the cancer? The fluid? Probably both. I also have a pretty nasty hard dry cough.
And there you have it! It's just about 8 a.m. on Wednesday, 13 August 2014 here in London, England. My parents have flown over from the USA to be with me and are renting a neighbour's flat in the building. My wife has had to fly home to Canada to help with her own very elderly and sick father, but returns Sunday. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop regarding this new trial, and wondering if it will do anything, and if will do that soon enough.
Damn, just over a month ago I was still bicycle commuting to work and basically felt fine, the GDC-0980 keeping my cancer in check. It's been a hell of a month.
Thanks for 'listening'.
-Seth
47 yr old male non-smoker, social drinker, fit. Jan'10, Stg3 rt tonsil+rt neck SCC, HPV+, rad+chmo Vancouver Cda. 2yr clear Apr'12 London UK. Apr'13 mets recur to lymph btw left lung & aorta, 3x Cisplatin+5FUchemo+20 rad, was all clear but 6-mo PET-CT shows mets to pleura around left lung, participating in St 1 trial of GDC-0980. GDC lost effect and ended July'14, bad atrial fibrillation requiring hospitalisation, start more standard chemo 10 Sep 2014. Sadly has passed away, notified Jan 2015.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Sorry to hear of your challenges, Seth. I hope this new trial gives some better results.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 945 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 945 | Seth - glad to hear your parents and there to help and that your wife will return soon. Your doctors sound like they are on the ball, and hopefully the new trial will be right on target. Will be thinking of you. Maria
CG to husband - SCC Tonsil T1N2M0 HPV+ Never Smoker First symptoms 7/2010, DX 12/2010 TX 40 IRMT (1.8 gy) + 10 Cetuximab PET Scans 6/2011 + 3/2012 clear, 5 year physical exam clear; chest CT's clear of cancer. On thyroid pills. Life is good.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Hi Seth, I'm so sorry to hear that GDC-0980 did not work out. You have been very brave in dealing with the various medical issues that have arisen and in wanting to continue with still another trial. Generations of future cancer patients will benefit from what the doctors will learn because you have decided to carry on fighting and not quitting. Post when you can, I will be cheering you on.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 | I have faith and hope that this new drug will do what you need it to.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,292 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,292 Likes: 1 | You have been through one head spinning set of events. I hope so very much whatever follows works and keep the monster at bay, especially given the other health issues compounding the cancer treatment options. It does sound like you have a solid link to the best research specialist in the country so you should take comfort that all this is possible is known and reviewed for you. Best wishes and thanks for the update. Don
Don Male, 57 - Great health except C Dec '12 DX: BOT SCC T2N2bMx, Stage 4a, HPV+, multiple nodes 1 tooth out Jan '13 2nd tooth out Tumor Board -induction TPF (3 cycles), seq CRT 4-6/2013 CRT 70gr 2x35, weekly carbo150 ended 5/29,6/4 All the details, join at http://beatdown.cognacom.com | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 | Seth- Just catching up and saw your post. I am so sorry about this setback. However, it is encouraging to note the zeal and attention the doctors are showing in pursuing the antibody treatment possibility. Best of luck as this option is investigated.
Sincerely, Mary
Mary Caregiver to husband, 60 Dx Sept '12 SCC BOT T2N2aMo, Stage IV, HPV+ Oct '12 Sub.Gland transfer Nov-Dec '12 IMRT x 33 + cisplatin x7 March '13 PET/CT: 2 spots on lungs; (BOT & neck lymphs NED) April '13 Biopsy: 1 = malignant right hilar lymph (met from HNSCC)p16 9/13: 33 rounds IMRT to lungs; carboplatinx7 CT w/contrast 12/30/13: 2 spots left hilar lymph. biopsy confirms SCC 30 rounds IMRT to left lung; treatment ended 5/29/14 Sept 2014--CT clear; December 2014 CT clear
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