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 Joined:  Jun 2013 Posts: 346 Likes: 3 |  20 to 30 years seems iffy to me. I was diagnosed at 37, and I nevet even dated till I was 19, did not even kiss till much later than that. The math.for me would not add up.
 I am in a monogamous relationship, but till all this surgery and trearment is over, I think my dear husband is probably safe, poor deprived darling.
 
 If this became some sort of legal thing for people, given how little we really know, there would be a tough burden of proof to surmount.
 
 ETA: We do suspect some early childhood abuse in my past, so I guess my math may be suspect. Never mind that. But it does underscore the difficulty of proof.
 
Last edited by KristenS; 01-16-2014 07:57 PM.
   Surgery 5/31/13
 Tongue lesion, right side
 SCC, HPV+, poorly differentiated
 T1N0 based on biopsy and scan
 Selective neck dissection 8/27/13, clear nodes
 12/2/13 follow-up with concerns
 12/3/13 biopsy, surgery, cancer returned
 1/8/14 Port installed
 PEG installed
 Chemo and rads
 2/14/14 halfway through carboplatin/taxotere and rads
 March '14, Tx done, port out w/ complications, PEG out in June
 2017: probable trigeminal neuralgia
 Fall 2017: HBOT
 Jan 18: oral surgery
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 Joined:  Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 |  Maybe it's mumbo jumbo crap to you, but apparently not everyone else. It was on topic to the question(s), which has health, social, moral, ethical, and possibly legal ramifications, and were having a nice discussion. What you say about the Guardasil prophylactic vaccine for persons already infected by HPV -16 may be crap too, and other experts think otherwise, and say it doesn't work.  KirstenS, it's also suspected expected mothers may have passed HPV  at childbirth too. Not sure if they test expected mothers these days? As far as burden of proof, it may not be the intention, just a smear or attack campaign. I can see it in some divorce cases, they include everything else anyway.   10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
 06/11 30 HBO
 08/11 RND PNI
 06/12 SND PNI LVI
 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
 10/13 SND
 10/13 TBO/Angiograph
 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
 06/17 Heart Attack Stent
 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Joined:  Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 |  Just to add - Kris and I have been in a monogamous relationship for 35 years.I do know he enjoyed " sowing wild oats" before he met me.
 Tammy
   Caregiver/advocate to Husband Kris age 59@ diagnosis
 DX Dec '10 SCC BOT T4aN2bM0 HPV+ve.Cisplatin x3 35 IMRT.
 PET 6/11 clear.
 R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED
 Feb '12 Ca back.. 3/8/12 total glossectomy/laryngectomy/bilat neck dissection/partial pharyngectomy etc.  clear margins. All nodes negative for disease. PEG in.
 March 2017 -  5 years disease free. Woohoo!
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