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#17561 06-08-2005 01:52 AM
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Believe me, Mark, I've probably pulled up more links than you on Iressa. As for the side effects, not everybody gets them. I must be one of the lucky ones that gets to experience damn near all of them. Every time I go into the doctor with a new one, they seem excited because it somehow means the Iressa is working. I get the impression that the more side effects you have the better chance you have with Iressa. I'm not being dramatic to say I cried when they put me back on it again. After my surgery they found no signs of cancer cells, so I thought I was DONE with treatment and all the crap I had to deal with was behind me.

I'm assuming right now that I'm on the Iressa as some sort of preventative. There are times that I wonder if my doctors are more concerned with being part of this study or me as a patient, because my side effects have been horrible.

As for the deaths in Japan, these were lung cancer patients (I believe) and they died from lung problems.

Iressa is pretty easy to take though. One medium size yellow pill every morningm so it's not like getting chemo or radiation. In my case, I know after having Stage IV cancer and several nodes involved, they treated it agressively. WHen approached with Iressa, I was willing to grab anything and everything to give me a cure.

Guess that's why I'm still taking the drug.

Jen

#17562 06-09-2005 06:00 AM
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It's not a tumor, it's my arm!
Thank heavens I came back to my original surgeon at OHSU. The "tumor" and "scar tissue" they've been finding evidence of for four years is the arm "flap", chunk of forearm, they used to reconstruct the soft palate and throat 13 years ago. Whew! The team is still going over all my films and comparing them to the surgical procedures I had. But they feel pretty certain the primary site is fine. There's extreme mastoid infection as a result of the eustachian tube being cut off and closed way back then. Which explains the constant pain on that side of my face and neck.
But in all the films they found a semi-large lung tumor that they're going to needle biopsy. I've heard some negatives about those. Some say the biopsy spreads the cancer, others say your lung collapses. What have you heard? I'm thankful for all your insights about chemo. That will be happening for sure and it's good to know what works.
Hang in there Jen! My worst time was the first year after the neck dissection. It does get better. smile
Ali Mae


ACC of soft palate diag. '90; neck resection '93,removal of soft palate, nodes, eustachian tube, rebuilt palate with arm tissue; 9 wks radiation; lung mets and positive nodes '05, no treatment possible.
#17563 06-09-2005 10:01 AM
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It's Your arm?.....well better than your foot I suppose!

That is a first for me to read, you would think that they could tell the difference.

Upon reading several sites regarding needle biopsy of the lung, it would appear that your best bet is to have a CT guided biopsy that does not transverse the lung. In otherwords if the needle dosen't pierce the lung (only the tumor) the risk of collapsed lung is very small. One site suggested that the overall risk of a collapsed lung is between 25% and 50%.

As for the spread of the tumor, that is a question that will probably spur debate. Search the web for additional information that you can ponder. I think it is only logical that if the cancer is well encapsulated then puncturing it will create a path for tumor cells to leak. Whether or not those leaked cells take hold and cause spread is the matter of debate. If it were me I would ask the doctors if there is another diagnostic tecnique that would work or discuss if surgery to remove the tumor without the intermediate biopsy is possible.


Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
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Oh My God!!!

I slowly read your posts and then burst out in relief when I read that it was looking good! Then I read about the lung tumor and am wondering how that's turning out?

One thing I admired was how hopeful, energetic and even humorous you were on the postings. Very encouraging and positive! You are an amazing person. While you are faced with even more challenges you managed to slip in an upbeat comment to "hang in there".

I was originally going to recommend that you ask your doctors about Erbitux.

I was just diagnosed June 10th, 2005.

I feel scared and afraid that my life is over.

It sounds so bleak! Looks like almost all of us eventually have a relapse even if they get it all the first time around.

I am such a forward looking personallity, it is crushing me to try to think just one day at a time.

My name is Michael. Dx 06-10-05. SCC right tonsil, 2 nodes (so far) positive. Stage IV (T2N2). I've learned a whole lot more than I ever wanted to know about head & neck (oral) cancers in the last 10 days.


Michael | 53 | SCC | Right Tonsil | Dx'd: 06-10-05 | STAGE IV, T3N2bM0 | 3 Nodes R Side | MRND & Tonsillectomy 06/29/05 Dr Fee/Stanford | 8 wks Rad/Chemo startd August 15th @ MSKCC, NY | Tx Ended: 09-27-05 | Cancer free at 16+ Yrs | After-Effects of Tx: Thyroid function is 0, ok salivary function, tinnitus, some scars, neck/face asymmetry, gastric reflux. 2017 dysphagia, L Carotid stent / 2019, R Carotid occluded not eligible for stent.2022 dental issues, possible ORN, memory/recall challenges.
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good luck ali, hope things turn out ok remember were all hear to help u along . we have all been all the tests, the waiting, the highs and the lows,believe me there will be light at the end of the tunnel believe me. god be with you
take care maz

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Michael,
Thank you!! I totally understand your terror. Even after all these years, I was shocked at how scared I got. That cold water in your veins kind of scared. What helped more than the "arm news" was the kind and caring Dr. I spoke with at OHSU. Their attitude affects us so very much and some don't realize that. The ones who broke the recent news of the terrible report were cold, indifferent, casual and flippant. Saying "Oh well, you've already lived many years longer than most." That's supposed to make me feel good?
So I came back to California with the renewed conviction to find better Dr.s. Not just skilled surgeons but caring ones. My husband said the OHSU Dr. was the first to ever look at him and speak directly to him, acknowledging his presence, even though he was always in the other examining rooms. I've come to believe that a huge portion of our success in living is a happy, thriving immune system. And that takes a fun and caring support system. Be they Dr.s or friends. My 1993 Dr. at OHSU first started me on the right track. As I read all the horrifying statistics for ACC I became a doomsday, trembling wreck. And dear Dr. Cohen said "Yes, but in all those statistics theres always at least 1% that survive well, aren't there?" Yes, I admitted. "Well", he said, "then why can't you be that 1%?" and smiled.
I realized I'd been scared and given up thinking I would live. So I began to plan for survival, got in with a Wellness group of irreverant, funny people and decided to fight. It comes and goes those first few years but surround yourself with positive and fun friends.
The day after my 13 hour neck resection, when I looked so scary my uncle, a doctor himself, threw up when he saw me, my brother came with a gift. It was a Tshirt with a big picture of a cartoon cow lying flat on it's back, feet stright up in the air and tongue hanging out. The caption read "Really, I'm fine". We both laughed and cried and decided humor was the best medicine, even sick humor.
Run, don't walk to positive people. There are Wellness groups, sponsored by Bernie Siegel, all over Calif. I went to the one in Pasadena and we were a hoot. You'll kick this thing. It's just a life lesson to force you to change for the better. Otherwise we get lazy and stuck in ruts.
Hugs!! Ali


ACC of soft palate diag. '90; neck resection '93,removal of soft palate, nodes, eustachian tube, rebuilt palate with arm tissue; 9 wks radiation; lung mets and positive nodes '05, no treatment possible.
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