| Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | Hello. I have been creeping around the forums for about a week...learning. I am a 48 year old female who quit smoking 4 years ago but still "vape" now and then with an electronic cig. I drink a couple of mixed drinks or glasses of wine an evening. Guess I'm confessing my sins right up front. Lol. I teach HS Chemistry and Math and am from Texas. After 14 months of white patches on my tongue (LS toward the back), and 3 biopsies, I was diagnosed today with SCC. Oral Surgeon referring me to another Oral Surgeon who is the head of the Head and Neck "department" of a Medical Center near me. The OS #2 has a 41 page resume' with several papers about the treatment of SCC listed. He lists Head and Neck Oncology as one of his surgical specialties. I hope I will be in good hands. OS #1 said surgery should be all I need. My lesion is about the size of a Lima Bean. Should I be worried that chemo or radiation aren't being recommended? Seems like most of you have had more than surgery?
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 262 | Hi there, I'm so sorry about your diagnosis. You've done a great job persisting through 3 biopsies to get an answer. It's often valuable to get a second opinion. If nothing else it gives you more confidence. Sounds like OS #2 has a nice CV. Personally I would want to know that at least 50% of his/her practice was head and neck. You want somebody who does this all day long.
& bully for you quitting cigs, that's a fantastic accomplishment!
53 T3N2aM0 HPV+ 5/26/13 discovered painless superball-sized lymph node in neck 6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil 7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes 9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses 10/16/13 Treatment ends Dec 13 Ulcer appears at surgery site Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer! Feb 17 CT/PET Scan lights up tonsil bed & nasal cavity, docs say probably inflammation, don't panic, rescan when ulcer subsides
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | Hi ChemTeach, Sorry to hear of your diagnosis. You're in a good place for info and encouragement for sure. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here. If you've been lurking then you've seen many recommend a 2nd opinion. It's just a prudent thing to do. Seek out a CCC near you and see what they have to say. Most CCCs use a team approach which bodes well for the patient. Having confidence in your team is vital for your attitude and success IMO. Here is a list of the top rated Cancer hospitals in the US. Cancer Center Ratings I see you're in Tx. MD Anderson is #1 in the country. A CCC will have seen more in terms of quantity of cases and diversity as well as have the latest technology. Information and knowledge will be your best ally as you begin the journey. Positive thoughts and prayers "T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I 2nd for a 2nd opinion at a CCC. It also depends on the size of the tumor, and other pathology, prognostic factors like negative margins from surgery, perineural or lymphovascular invasion, other involvement to have chemo and radiation added. Small T1-T2 oral cancer are often treated with surgery, with or without radiation, chemo or radiation alone. It also depends on the doctors experience, patients request.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | Thanks for the warm welcome and immediate advice. Will let everyone know what this 2nd Dr. Has to say. Dr. #1 said the same thing about having a surgeon that "does this type of surgery everyday" when he referred me to Dr. #2. I am scheduled to see him Tuesday of next week. Just going to try to stay busy until then and look further into MD Anderson vs. LSUS in Shreveport (Willis-Knighton). Thanks again.
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Welcome to OCF! Sorry to hear you have been given the bad news of having SCC. You have found a great place for info and support. We will help you get thru this.
Im glad to hear you will be taking the good advice you have been given about heading to a CCC. The team based approach of the countrys top doctors along with adhering to the NCI guidelines has been scientifically proven to be beneficial to the outcome of the patient. They have experience in treating hundreds of oral cancer patients each year while smaller facilities may only see a case once or twice a year.
Best wishes! ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | MD is supposed to be top notch. And what is supposed to be isn't always as simple as it seems I second the second opinion. This cancer can be aggressive. No dr. Can tell you at that should be it until after the area is fully removed and the pathology has come back. Have you had a PET, CT or MRI yet? Hugs and welcome.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 92 | Just wanted to say welcome chemteacher. Sorry about your dx. As you can see this is a wonderful place for speedy opinions, medical advice, and tips and hints on getting through this. We will all be here to help you get through.
AGE 38 10-2012 thru 3-2012 swollen lymph node,painful jaw and ear,2 antibiotics,X-ray,CAT scan,needle biopsy,scope, no answers 3-4-13 tonsillectomy and selective neck dissection, DX R tonsil SCC,METS to 1 lymph node,BOT,HPV+, stage IV TX 35 RAD,3 chemo cisplatin/Taxol started 4-8-13 rad end 5-29-13
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | I have not had any imaging tests yet. Just 3 biopsies and referral to new doctor. Will know more after Tuesday's consultation. If this guy doesn't suggest some type of imaging test.....my alarms are going to go off!!!!
Told my Principal and co-workers today. Receiving lots of support, love, and prayers.
It's still hard for me to believe I have CANCER. I feel fine....except for this sore tongue. It just hasn't sunk in yet. This is serious, isn't it.?!?. One well meaning co-worker told me...."oh I know what SCC is, my mother had that on her forehead....it's no big deal.....don't worry...." I keep going back and forth.....this is CANCER......to....it's just a bump on my tongue that's like a bad mole....the size of a LIMA BEAN...!!!!!! Yes....I know this is more than just a bad spot on my skin.....
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | I recall going through a similar train of thought. I had a swollen gland. I felt fine otherwise. How can this be cancer? However, I had a gut feeling something was amiss prior to my diagnosis. I really didn't feel anything until just before my neck dissection and even then it was just some pressure from the tumor pressing on structures and nerves. No pain at all.
I know... "we" know what you're going through. It's going to be Ok. You're going to be Ok. Take a deep breath, read up here and learn as much as you can during the following weeks and seek a second opinion regardless of how things go next week.
Positive thoughts and prayers
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 188 Likes: 4 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 188 Likes: 4 | You are in the best place given the news you just received. I had to visit this site in May after receiving similar news. I am 6 weeks post TX and will answer any questions I can. The support network is your best friend and already started with co-workers. You will pass this test in life.
Age 55 HPV 16+ SCC, BOT 050613 Stage IV great team at OSU Tx 6 weeks of rad started June 3 8 weeks of chemo started May 28 RTOG Phase III trial Cetuximab group. Treatment completed 7/16/2013 PET Scan completed 10/08/13 Results discussed 10/11/13 NED - Free but am I Next part of the journey? 1year PET 10/24/14 NED Good reports now 10 years out. | | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Yep, my GP thought it was a canker sore and tried to burn it off, oops. So cancer was a bit of a shocker. Well, she was only one letter off...
Good luck Tuesday. Once they get more info the options should all be laid out for you.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 31 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 31 | Wishing you the best of luck on your TX! It's very hard to hear and actually say I have Cancer, I am still in shock myself. Seems like you are doing all the right things and getting into the best places. My thoughts are with you.
DX with MEC salivary gland 8/20/2013 age 27 F 9 weeks pregnant Jessica, Mother to a 4 and 9 year old 11/18/2013 surgery to removed tumor, including bilateral jaw muscle. 2nd Trimester. 12/2/2013 results came back for clear margins
| | | | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 | Thanks folks. I told my Pre-AP chem students today about the cancer and that I will be out for a while after surgery. They were so sweet about it. I had to leave class early yesterday to have my CT scan. They want to see my scan! I got a copy of the CD of the CT for myself after reading some lists here. I want to have copies of all my test results IN HAND to give the various med professionals that need copies. Sounds like it may help avoid delays in treatment.
I am trying my best to make 6 weeks of lesson plans for all my classes for subs and line up meals for my family for the week or so I am in the hospital. Hubby will be driving back and forth 90 minutes each way to visit me and get our kids to and from school. Wow...there is alot to plan.
48 yo female, quit smoking 4yrs ago, light drinker, Stage 2 SCC, Bx3, Dx 8/22/13, surgery 9/11/13. Partial glossectomy, bilateral neck dissection levels 1-4. Tongue reconstruction with flap from forearm. 87 Lymph nodes CLEAR. Tongue margins good at 1 cm. No further treatment planned. Monthly monitoring planned for upcoming year then periodic monitoring for next 4
| | | | Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17 Member | Member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17 | You are doing the best thing you can do for yourself with this diagnosis and that is get educated on it. This will allow you to ask the right questions and even the Doc's don't want you to ask. Time is your biggest enemy. The tissue of your tongue replaces itself every 7 to 10 days. In order for a tumor to sustain its growth over normal tissue it has to replecate faster than that which means it will likely double in size every week or so. The larger it gets the harder it is to take out or treat without adversely effecting your function. If it were me and I had the means to get to MD Anderson, I would do so as fast as possible. A referall to them from Dr.#2 might get you in and treated the fastest. The next thing they will do is stage the cancer with a number of tests. This takes time and the people who ultimately will do the treatment will want to have their own tests and not use another hospital. Because of the time issue that is why I would say get to MD as soon as you can and let them stage it and give you recommendations for treatment. As a fellow educator I am living proof you can survive this and be able to teach a bunch more students chemistry so they help save the world from global warming. Good luck.
In 1994 I found a 3cm tumor on my right tonsil. After 3 rounds of chemo, I underwent a radical neck dissection with a peck flap. I had a reoccurance which required twice a day radiation treatments and then had 19 years cancer free. I then found a very small tumor on my right tonsil. It was removed. Then I found a 1 cm mass near the base of my tongue on the left side. I had two partial glossectomys with bad margins and then then underwent Brachytherapy.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Chances are it will be longer than six weeks. You may be able to work the first two but the two treatment are the worst. Then it's a slow climb back to normal - that's assuming you have to have radiation. Here's to hoping you don't! hugs
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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