| Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 805 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 805 | So sorry. I can hear the pain, fear and confusion and am so sad. I cannot even imagine being where the 3 of you are, but please know that you are being held up in prayer and we are here for you. Love to all of you, Kathy
Kathy wife/caregiver to: Kevin age:53 Dx 7/15/11 HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R Non smoker, casual drinker 7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11 PEG placed 9/1/11 Removed 11/8/11 Clear PET 10/12 and 10/13 and ct in 6/14 | | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,301 "OCF Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,301 | I am so very sorry to read you latest Jay. You and Jen must be in shock. Hoping that a clinical trial or other options present themselves over the coming days. Sending love and hugs to you, Jen and Hunter. Gabriele
History Leukoplakia bx 8/2006 SCC floor mouth T3N0M0- Verrucous Carcinoma. 14 hour 0p SCC-Right ND/excision/marginal mandibulectomy 9/2006, 4 teeth removed, flap from wrist, trach-ng 6 days- no chemo/rad. 6 ops and debulking (flap/tongue join) + bx's 2006-2012. bx Jan 2012 Hyperkeratosis-Epithelial Dysplasia 24cm GIST tumour removed 8/2013. Indefinite Oral Chemo.
1/31/16 passed away peacefully surrounded by family
| | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 76 | Jay- I just read your last post. I am so sorry about the latest news. I am wishing for the very best for you all at this time as you research and evaluate new options for treatment.
Best, Mary
Mary Caregiver to husband, 60 Dx Sept '12 SCC BOT T2N2aMo, Stage IV, HPV+ Oct '12 Sub.Gland transfer Nov-Dec '12 IMRT x 33 + cisplatin x7 March '13 PET/CT: 2 spots on lungs; (BOT & neck lymphs NED) April '13 Biopsy: 1 = malignant right hilar lymph (met from HNSCC)p16 9/13: 33 rounds IMRT to lungs; carboplatinx7 CT w/contrast 12/30/13: 2 spots left hilar lymph. biopsy confirms SCC 30 rounds IMRT to left lung; treatment ended 5/29/14 Sept 2014--CT clear; December 2014 CT clear
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 | Appreciate everyone's well wishes and we are still a bit confused as to what is going on..
As per my previous post, the surgery did not go as planned and Jen was given the grim news that the cancer has now turned into something that is non-curable and current treatment regimes will be ineffective.
Basically, we have been told indirectly by the doctors here in Melbourne to make sure our affairs in order as there is nothing else they can do treatment was other than saying it may be worth putting Jen into Palliative care.
This is because they are reluctant to give any Chemotherapy as Jen is currently doing very well physically and don't want to risk losing that for the high toxicity and very little benefit from the chemo which is generally the case for metastatic cancer. The same goes for any treatment required to remove the tumor from Jen's lungs and have advised against tomotherapy and/or surgery to remove this.
The MO also said that there will be traces of microscopic cancer in and around Jen's body despite nothing coming up from the recent PET scan, and that it is only a matter of time that this thing will spread to other parts of her body.
However, they say there was no growth in the tumor since her first CT scan in May compared to the latest ones mid July which is also a bit baffling to say the least especially when they say Jen's cancer is very aggressive!
Furthermore, the pathology reports indicated that there was no evidence of cancer from the fluid extracted from the pleura although our MO dismissed this as a "false-positive" and told us that it is very likely there are cancer cells there.
You now know why we are so confused and Jen & I have decided to keep positive and not let the grim news overwhelm us especially when she is doing so well physically for the meantime and the doctors here in Melbourne are basically saying to us "We don't know what's going on but we know the cancer is aggressive so we can't cure you".
Hence, we have decided to take this treatment back home to Korea to request further opinions and there are highly regarded doctors that we have already spoken to who are still not sure this is in fact cancer that has spread and still think it is a new primary which means we may still have a chance to beat this thing..
Looking into clinical trials at the same time (I am fascinated by Reolysin and would like to ask those on the board if there are any who have any further info on this) and we have our first round of our new doctors appointments already scheduled for the 16th & 21st of August.
As we enter another important phase with trying to figure out this riddle, please pray for our family and any information or assistance over the clinical trial or shedding more light over this situation would be greatly appreciated.
Kindest Regards Jay, Jen & Hunter
6/8/12: Wife 33y/o with no risk dx with Stage IVa SCC L of Tongue(T4aN2bM0) 3/9/12: Induced birth @ 36 weeks - Baby Hunter! 11/9/12: OP - 3/4 Partial Gloss, Radical ND & Tongue Rec. 24/10/12: 33xRad + 7xChemo 7/12/12: Tx complete 21/3/13 & 21/6/13: NED 24/7/13: SCC in Lungs - OP: Lobectomy (VATS) 29/1/14 passed away
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Thanks for the update! Yes, I can certainly understand your confusion with Jen's diagnosis! Im very glad to hear Jen is physically doing very well. With her feeling ok, it helps her to have a better outlook about the entire situation.
From what I know of Reolysin, it is still being trialed here in the US. It is showing some promising results. It could be more readily available in other countries, Im not sure of their procedures with bringing new drugs into the market for the general public.
As always, Im wishing you, Jen and Hunter all the very best with everything.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I don't blame you one bit. It's easy for these docs to say "give up, there's nothing that can be done" but I wonder if THEY were in your shoes, would they?
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 | Jay,
What a tough situation. I'm glad you are looking into other options. I don't have any sound medical advice to give you, but I will keep your family in my prayers.
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Susan
SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0 Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV- Surgery: June 2005 RT: Feb-Apr 2006 HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105! Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010 Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia Dental issues: 2013-2022 (ORN)
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Good luck with the 2nd opinion. What one doctor or hospital may not be able to treat, another may. You both will be in my thoughts and prayers.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Let's hope that the doctors in Korea will find a way to deal with the situation. You and your family are always in my thoughts during this very tough time.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 "OCF Canuck" Member | "OCF Canuck" Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 | You got this Jay. Love is strong, so is belief. We are on that precious "extra" time....for a year now! More opinions, more research, more options. | | |
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