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Valentina #167869 07-14-2013 09:31 AM
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Spanish traditionally falls into three categories.

1). Castellano or Castillian is from Spain and used a lot in South America other than Brazil which is Portuguese.

2). Mexican

3). American

Primary difference in proper Spanish is the double L sound becomes J and the s as in esta becomes "lazy" and sounds like eta.

I told her I am sorry because I don't speak Spanish, only English please.

This gives her the responsibility to find someone close to her to help her understand the English speaking website and to be able to ask questions back and forth before posting. I hope this helps.

Children of almost all Spanish speaking countries or homes are now the translators. The more technical things she may have to research. Things may still be lost in translation but such is life. My 84 year old Japanese uncle speaks fluent Japanese, English, Spanish (even Castellano), Russian, German, Portuguese, Italian and a few words in Arabic from his 60+ years as a free lance photojournalist but, unfortunately, he has fallen too many times injuring his head and is no longer communicative as of last December. I do have many friends that speak Spanish and the son of one from Columbia starts dental school in Houston and will be attending the walk in September. I would be glad to ask him if he would like to take this on if you like, although I am more inclined to put the onus on Valentina.


SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0
Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03
Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08.
Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11
Cervical Myelitis 09/12
Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12
Dysautonomia 11/12
Hospice care 09/12-01/13.
COPD 01/14
Intermittent CHF 6/15
Feeding tube NPO 03/16
VFI 12/2016
ORN 12/2017
Cardiac Event 06/2018
Bilateral VFI 01/2021
Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022
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Valentina #167872 07-14-2013 10:58 AM
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Unable to contact my friend this weekend, however I see here that there are several people here who can at least translate Brian's original message to her. I agree with Anne-Marie's hijack comment. Hoping someone can start a new thread to her with Brian's solution. Let me know if I can be of any help.


Nancy (53 at dx)
Metastatic SCC. Stage III. HPV positive with occult primary. N1, no ecs
7/1/11 - L-Selective neck dissection. Tonsillectomy. All clean. No rad, no chemo.
5/29/13 - Found primary
7/3/13 - TORS
7/8/13 - Emergency Surgery/Blood vessel burst in throat
8/9/13 - Peg in
9/3/13 - Radiation starts 30 IMRT, 60gy BOT, 56gy both sides of neck
10/14/13 - Radiation ended!
11/12/13 - PEG out!
Valentina #167873 07-14-2013 11:26 AM
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It is of concern to me that this thread has become more about the language one speaks than about Valentina's cancer. We should try to be as helpful to one another as we can despite differences in language, culture or available medical resources.

She posted she is in tears most of the time. We've been there. We know how scared she is. Just because she posted in Spanish, regardless of the dialect, is no reason not to help!

Google Translate http://translate.google.com/ is not perfect but it's a start. My partner/caregiver (from Ecuador) and I are more than willing to help. If you're worried about what one is saying in most any language, you can get the basic meaning through that tool and post both the English and Spanish for all to see and read.

Respectfully,

"T"

(Google Translate)

Es motivo de preocupaci�n para m� que este hilo se ha vuelto m�s sobre la lengua que se habla sobre el c�ncer de Valentina. Debemos tratar de ser lo m�s �tiles unos a otros como nos sea posible a pesar de las diferencias de idioma, cultura o recursos.

Ella public� que ella est� llorando la mayor parte del tiempo. Hemos estado all�. Sabemos lo asustada que est�. El hecho de que ella ha escrito en espa�ol, independientemente del dialecto, no hay raz�n para no ayudar!

Traductor Google http://translate.google.com/ no es perfecto, pero es un comienzo. Mi pareja / cuidador (de Ecuador) y yo estamos m�s que dispuestos a ayudar. Si usted est� preocupado acerca de lo que se est� diciendo en casi cualquier idioma, se puede obtener el significado b�sico a trav�s de esa herramienta y publicar tanto el Ingl�s y espa�ol para que todos puedan ver y leer.

Respetuosamente,

"T"


57
Cardiac bypass 11/07
Cardiac stents 10/2012
Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+
Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12
Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13
Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13
3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo
Finished Tx 4/24/13
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Sending Valentina Brian's message in Spanish, on a new thread right now.


Nancy (53 at dx)
Metastatic SCC. Stage III. HPV positive with occult primary. N1, no ecs
7/1/11 - L-Selective neck dissection. Tonsillectomy. All clean. No rad, no chemo.
5/29/13 - Found primary
7/3/13 - TORS
7/8/13 - Emergency Surgery/Blood vessel burst in throat
8/9/13 - Peg in
9/3/13 - Radiation starts 30 IMRT, 60gy BOT, 56gy both sides of neck
10/14/13 - Radiation ended!
11/12/13 - PEG out!
Valentina #167875 07-14-2013 12:04 PM
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Si quieres puedes enviar tus comentarios traducidos en Ingles y postearlos aqu� y yo te responder� lo mejor que pueda en Ingles para que tu a la ves los traduzcas a al Espa�ol o al lenguaje que prefieras.
Puede que hallan dificultades de interpretaci�n en la traducci�n, pero haremos lo mejor que podamos para ayudarte.


Nancy (53 at dx)
Metastatic SCC. Stage III. HPV positive with occult primary. N1, no ecs
7/1/11 - L-Selective neck dissection. Tonsillectomy. All clean. No rad, no chemo.
5/29/13 - Found primary
7/3/13 - TORS
7/8/13 - Emergency Surgery/Blood vessel burst in throat
8/9/13 - Peg in
9/3/13 - Radiation starts 30 IMRT, 60gy BOT, 56gy both sides of neck
10/14/13 - Radiation ended!
11/12/13 - PEG out!
Valentina #167876 07-14-2013 12:05 PM
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Epic fail... Will try again...


Nancy (53 at dx)
Metastatic SCC. Stage III. HPV positive with occult primary. N1, no ecs
7/1/11 - L-Selective neck dissection. Tonsillectomy. All clean. No rad, no chemo.
5/29/13 - Found primary
7/3/13 - TORS
7/8/13 - Emergency Surgery/Blood vessel burst in throat
8/9/13 - Peg in
9/3/13 - Radiation starts 30 IMRT, 60gy BOT, 56gy both sides of neck
10/14/13 - Radiation ended!
11/12/13 - PEG out!
Valentina #167920 07-15-2013 06:29 AM
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Together, Brian, David and myself have come up with a solution to the language barrier problem. While OCF wants to help every single person, at times we just cant. This situation greatly bothers me to turn someone away who is so upset.

If this new member would have someone on her end who is able to post on the forum in English then to translate it back to her that would be the ideal solution. So first we will attempt to see if this is an option. I will have someone contact her thru email asking if this is an option.

Plan B... fishmanpa has generously offered his assistance in this matter. Thank you very much, fishmanpa!!! If you would like to help by corresponding thru email to the new member in her language that would be great. If she would have questions, reposting it on the forum translated into English so the OCF members can reply. The next part could get to be time consuming but it all depends on if she has questions or not. She may just need some moral support. If the new member asks questions then you could translate the replies back to her thru email.



Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
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OC 3x in 3 years
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Thanks for the post Christine.

An email was sent offering our assistance in translation and posting to Valentina. Marcia and I will do what we can to help.

Although Google Translate is "Ok" for basic communication, I agree that for more detailed explanations and technical/medical jargon, a more precise detailed translation is necessary. Marcia will be able to provide that.

Marcia would also be able to correspond via Skype is necessary as she uses it to communicate with her family and friends in Ecuador.
We would be able to translate to English and post to get answers to questions and visa versa.

Positively,

"T"


57
Cardiac bypass 11/07
Cardiac stents 10/2012
Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+
Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12
Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13
Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13
3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo
Finished Tx 4/24/13
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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Excellent, fishmanpa!!!

Thank you very much for your kindness and assistance!!!


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
very happy to be alive smile
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