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[quote]Doesn't the FDA only oversee the package insert layout format for U.S. Prescribing package inserts, and may time to time review. Someone one else in the pharmeceitcal,company is writing that, and use simlar to the MSDS's package inserts for chemicals.[/quote]

sorry Paul, missed this question

the answer is YES, the pharmaceutical company writes the prescribing information under very strict guidelines. And NO the FDA is not responsible for the layout and format of the document. The FDA is responsible to ensure that every word is scrutinised for accuracy before being approved (hopefully). This includes any changes the company wants to make, any new data to be added and any reviews. If the information is not approved, the product cannot be sold.

there are normally two types of information - one is the information for physicians which contains the approved indication and the other is for patients which contains a shortened version with less mumbo jumbo and more practical advice. Both are submitted and approved by the FDA

There are shortened versions that appear on advertising and internet sites and these may not be approved by the FDA but must be true to the already FDA approved versions. These versions should also direct you to the full version for further information.


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Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes
Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve
Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31
Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin)
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Here is the "informationn for healthcare Professionals on FDA's New Prescribing Information for Drugs."

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/LawsActsandRules/ucm084189.htm

This is a clearing house by the FDA and National Library of meds, DailyMed, for up to date drug information, lined to the above.

http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/about.cfm

It does say Erbitix for first line treatment, amomgst the other reasons. I guess they snuck that in somewhere I didnt see. Anyway the it's not up to me, and just reporting what I read. Anyway, chemo can be used "off market" if I have the name correct, but don;t know the finer details. The good thing that cameoput of this is I have a new dailymed link smile I'm going to bed, my eyes hurt, and making too many typos.Nice chatting, and got losts of info pout there lol, although the link was highjacked.



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10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
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12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
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Paul & Karen,

Please continue this discussion, if you wish, by starting it's own thread. We need to return this back to Nancy. I'm sure she has enough info on the 2 chemo approaches to go forward.



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Nancy,

I was treated in 2006 by Moffitt and they recommended radiating both sides of my neck even though only 2 nodes on my left side were indicated if this helps.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Hi Nancy and welcome. My husband's BOT tumor was right to midline but he had both sides radiated. Good luck!

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Wanda (47) caregiver to husband John (56) age at diag.(2009)
1-13-09 diagnosed Stage IV BOT SCC (HPV+)
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8-09,12-09-CT Scans clear, 4-10,6-11-PET Scans clear
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I am not going to get involved really in the whole Erbitux vs Cisplatin convo.

However I am going to say to the original poster. I fully believe in new trial drugs, it is the way we get new treatments, and sometimes the work for some people. However, you have a tried and true treatment that works well against the type of cancer your hubby has. As a first line of combat against cancer I would choose the known. It may be more toxic, it may make you sick, you may even have a bad reaction to it (some do - but then they generally switch you to carbo) but overall it is effective and I personally am not willing to risk my life or the life of someone I care for on a drug that is still in trials. I might if the tried and true has failed but not as a first line.

best of luck - I know the whole back and forth has probably muddied the waters.

I can say based on reading what you have written likely the reason they are suggesting Erbitux is because he has no nodal involvement that is apparent on a scan. But Erbitux is not without it's issues either. A friend who's ex had it had a horrible reaction to only a few doses and has had issues ever since.

A drug is a drug, and since we are all individuals we respond differently.

take care.


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I will question, once again, all doctors involved. Still have second opinion tomorrow and am curious which treatment they suggest. We just want to start the journey and come back here and say "we beat the beast"!

Thanks, Cheryl

Nancy


Wife, caregiver
Diagnosed 5-7-13
SCC right tonsil HPV+
No node or tissue involvement
Surgery 5-20-13 removed both tonsils, neck dissection
Pathology Clear of cancer, no other involvement
tumor right at 4cm, so was staged T3N0M0
Treatments suggested both radiation and chemo
Have not begun that journey
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