| Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | [quote]Doesn't the FDA only oversee the package insert layout format for U.S. Prescribing package inserts, and may time to time review. Someone one else in the pharmeceitcal,company is writing that, and use simlar to the MSDS's package inserts for chemicals.[/quote]
sorry Paul, missed this question
the answer is YES, the pharmaceutical company writes the prescribing information under very strict guidelines. And NO the FDA is not responsible for the layout and format of the document. The FDA is responsible to ensure that every word is scrutinised for accuracy before being approved (hopefully). This includes any changes the company wants to make, any new data to be added and any reviews. If the information is not approved, the product cannot be sold.
there are normally two types of information - one is the information for physicians which contains the approved indication and the other is for patients which contains a shortened version with less mumbo jumbo and more practical advice. Both are submitted and approved by the FDA
There are shortened versions that appear on advertising and internet sites and these may not be approved by the FDA but must be true to the already FDA approved versions. These versions should also direct you to the full version for further information.
Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Here is the "informationn for healthcare Professionals on FDA's New Prescribing Information for Drugs." http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/LawsActsandRules/ucm084189.htmThis is a clearing house by the FDA and National Library of meds, DailyMed, for up to date drug information, lined to the above. http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/about.cfmIt does say Erbitix for first line treatment, amomgst the other reasons. I guess they snuck that in somewhere I didnt see. Anyway the it's not up to me, and just reporting what I read. Anyway, chemo can be used "off market" if I have the name correct, but don;t know the finer details. The good thing that cameoput of this is I have a new dailymed link  I'm going to bed, my eyes hurt, and making too many typos.Nice chatting, and got losts of info pout there lol, although the link was highjacked.
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10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Paul & Karen,
Please continue this discussion, if you wish, by starting it's own thread. We need to return this back to Nancy. I'm sure she has enough info on the 2 chemo approaches to go forward.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Nancy,
I was treated in 2006 by Moffitt and they recommended radiating both sides of my neck even though only 2 nodes on my left side were indicated if this helps.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 476 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 476 | Hi Nancy and welcome. My husband's BOT tumor was right to midline but he had both sides radiated. Good luck!
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Wanda (47) caregiver to husband John (56) age at diag.(2009) 1-13-09 diagnosed Stage IV BOT SCC (HPV+) 2-12-09 PEG placed, 7-6-09 removed Cisplatin 7 weeks, 7 weeks (35) IMRT 4-15-09 - treatment completed 8-09,12-09-CT Scans clear, 4-10,6-11-PET Scans clear 4-2013 - HBO (30 dives) tooth extraction 10-2019 - tooth extraction, HBO (10 dives) 11-2019 - Left lateral tongue SCC - Stage 2
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | I am not going to get involved really in the whole Erbitux vs Cisplatin convo. However I am going to say to the original poster. I fully believe in new trial drugs, it is the way we get new treatments, and sometimes the work for some people. However, you have a tried and true treatment that works well against the type of cancer your hubby has. As a first line of combat against cancer I would choose the known. It may be more toxic, it may make you sick, you may even have a bad reaction to it (some do - but then they generally switch you to carbo) but overall it is effective and I personally am not willing to risk my life or the life of someone I care for on a drug that is still in trials. I might if the tried and true has failed but not as a first line. best of luck - I know the whole back and forth has probably muddied the waters. I can say based on reading what you have written likely the reason they are suggesting Erbitux is because he has no nodal involvement that is apparent on a scan. But Erbitux is not without it's issues either. A friend who's ex had it had a horrible reaction to only a few doses and has had issues ever since. A drug is a drug, and since we are all individuals we respond differently. take care.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 15 Member | OP Member Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 15 | I will question, once again, all doctors involved. Still have second opinion tomorrow and am curious which treatment they suggest. We just want to start the journey and come back here and say "we beat the beast"!
Thanks, Cheryl
Nancy
Wife, caregiver Diagnosed 5-7-13 SCC right tonsil HPV+ No node or tissue involvement Surgery 5-20-13 removed both tonsils, neck dissection Pathology Clear of cancer, no other involvement tumor right at 4cm, so was staged T3N0M0 Treatments suggested both radiation and chemo Have not begun that journey
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