| Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 214 Likes: 1 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 214 Likes: 1 | I looked at the calendar today. 6 months and 9 minutes (who's counting like me) ago today I took off that damn mask and got up off moving table for the last time. (Fingers crossed). So far so good. Both the RO and ENT say they don't see or feel anything.
Neck muscle are still and always sore. I strech them 5 or 6000 times a day. Side to side, front to back, twist left twist right. Then there is the mouth stretch thing. Anybody here do the Jim Carey call of the wild face multiple times a day.
I am sitting in high level meeting with execs from all over the world and I am contorting my neck and making strange faces. I can't imagine what they are thinking.
So I get dry mouth at night because my nose is stuffy. I find Afrin, it works great. I sleep the whole night. A week later I reed the back "Do not use for more than 3 consecutive days". WHAT IS THIS IT GOING TO GIVE ME CANCER???
New Issue TMJ Both sides. Hurts wih lateral pressure on jaw. Not so much talking and chewing but side pressure. I think I might have over done it with the Therabite.
Last Question. Survivor status does the clock starts Day of Dx or End of Treatment.
PS I could not Stand IPA's before Treatment. I will let you know the verdict after the weekend.
Hockey Dad 43, No smoke, Small BOT HPV+16 8/30/12 Biopsy found SCC in Lymph node (removed) 9/19 DX 4a T1N2aM0 10/1 TX 2x Cisplatin 35 IMRT 70 gry (Done 11/15) PEG tube in 11/7. Out 1/4, Back at work 2/4/13 PET 2/13 Clear, 10/16 all Scopes Clear, 4/14 Chest X-ray Clear, 5/14 Abdominal ultrasound Clear, 8 yrs clean!!!
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Sounds good. They now say a survivor starts from the day of diagnosis, maybe American Cancer Society source I read it from, but I will always be a fighter! Keep up the good work. Btw, what is IPA's?
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 134 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 134 | I decided cancer is a b$&@$ and only gets ONE day, I went down the list and decided on Clean PET Day (10/28/11). Cancer should just be glad it gets that much recognition from me...
IPA's are fantastic. Find myself leaning towards stouts of all sorts.
Dx March 2011 via FNA (49 yrs old) SCC BoT HPV+ exact strain unknown Stage IVa T3N2cM0 Cisplatin x 3, IMRT x 40 (7267 cGy) One node removed post-treatment (rad dmg) Clean PET 10/28/11 Swallow therapy | | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 805 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 805 | Ok...what are IPA's....What are we missing?? Congrats on the 6 months out!! We are 18 months out now, from the last IMRT. Kathy
Kathy wife/caregiver to: Kevin age:53 Dx 7/15/11 HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R Non smoker, casual drinker 7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11 PEG placed 9/1/11 Removed 11/8/11 Clear PET 10/12 and 10/13 and ct in 6/14 | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | Alex and I have stopped counting (out loud anyway) as we found there comes a time when one thinking of oneself as a cancer survivor starts to define one. Having said this it is easier said than done.
Afrin: Is that a spray that helps with a stuffy nose? If it is, the reason they say not to use more than a few days is that it causes "rebound congestion" which means it causes the very condition that you are trying to treat. This just means that you might have to use it for the rest of your life or go through a few weeks of a stuffy nose without it until your body gets used to not having it anymore. As I always say to my Mum who is worried about getting "addicted" to some of her medications, it is only a problem if you are not planning on using it for the rest of your life.
with regard to survival, in my opinion the clock starts on from the day you start treatment. I say this because the stats on survival are based on the trials which all begin with the first day of treatment. However, Alex and I found some comfort in marking the anniversaries based on diagnosis and end of treatment as well.
Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 78 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 78 | An IPA is an India Pale Ale - my favorite type of beer pre treatment. Who knows if I'll like it anymore once I get the all clear for alcohol but I'm hopeful. Never liked stouts too much. It seems like that is popular with the post radiation crowd though.
Congrats on 6 months!
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Andrew age 25
early 10/12 - enlarged lymph node area 01/13 SCC of L tonsil, L BOT, 2 L lymph nodes stage IVa, T2N2bM0, HPV+
2/13 2 doses cisplatin big bag, 2 doses weekly cisplatin + 35x IMRT 4/13 TX finished 7/13 PET/CT - NED!
| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | oops, Paul is right survival is likely counted from day of diagnosis
Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Atta boy hockeydad...Kicking ass, taking names and drinking beer. You sure you're not Canadian like me?
Keep on keeping on. I am 9 months and 4 days from Dx, and 7 months and 6 days from surgery...dry mouth sucks. I chew gum now. Martini's also work.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 111 "OCF across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 111 | Hi Kathy, the IPA I think refers to my post on http://oralcancersupport.org/forums...;Main=15045&Number=165106#Post165106 where ChrisN and I digress on to the changes in our taste buds having developed a greater likeing for bitter tastes. IPA is a very hoppy flavoured beer which gives it a bitter taste. India Pale Ale was an export beer developed for Brits in India in the days of the Empire and extra hops were used to help it through the long journey by sailing ships. Hops have a lot of antibcteria propeties, so I am sure they are healthy and good for us too! Sally
Dx 10/11 51yrs LBOT Stage 4 2nodes HPV16+. Non-smoker mod alcohol. 10/11 Induction chemox2 (Docetaxel, 5-Flu, Cisplatin) then Cisplatinx2 IMRTx30. Ended 01/13/12. 12/07/11 RIG. RIG removed 05/05/12. 4/12 CT scan clear. Visual scope checks clear as of 10/13. Learning to live with eating challenges.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I drink an occasional beer, and find the darker types, unfiltered, even stout, has less carbonation and more taste as opposed to Light beer or other types. I cook with beer, so I keep it on hand lol. Wine I stay away unless I cook with or make sangria. Hard liquor I stay away from too and tends to burn my mouth.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
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