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Oh, Kelly, I am so saddened to read this. You have done yourself proud with your considerations regarding treatment. You are certainly well-informed. I admire your composure and directness. It has to be difficult facing the uncertainty. I appreciate your insight and thank you for including us in your situation. I wish you the very best whichever way you decide to pursue. We both came onto this site at about the same time so I feel connected to you. I have been following your posts since the beginning. Whatever you decide wil be the right way for you.

Anita


Anita (68)
CG to husband, Clark, 79,
DX SCC 11/07, T4N0Mx, PEG 1/08, RAD, post rad infection 3/08,
HBOT 40 dives, ORN, Surg 11/09 mandibulectomy w/fibular graft.
Plastic Surg 4/10, 12/10, 3/11, 10/11, 4/12, 10/12. All PETS clear,
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Kelly, I am very sorry to read about your recurrence! Im just shocked and words escape me right now as Im sure they do for you too. Im always in your corner. Best wishes with all the tough decisions you are facing!!!

(((HUGS))) to you my friend.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
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I hate this Kelly. I'm so sorry. I know that you know we are all here for you. We are a family and when one of us hurts, we all feel it. My heart goes out to you my friend.
Kathy


Kathy wife/caregiver to:
Kevin age:53
Dx 7/15/11
HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R
Non smoker, casual drinker
7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11
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Time is important - I'm ever the optimist and still hoping for a cure for you. I too have heard about the IORT Paul mentioned. Surgery is not a possibility? Just throwing it out there. If not I'd do the trial as it sounds like that's what you're leaning towards. Regardless of what you choose prayers and blessing are coming your way. Hugs!


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Kelly,

I am so sorry to see your latest news. I have read a lot about vaccine therapies in general with some research by the Japanese going back to the 60's using the actual rumors (tumor infiltrated lymphocytes) that was furthered by the University of Texas. There are also some other therapies/trials using chemo directly into the tumors but I have not looked for any current studies. Around here they also use SBRT that is real-time 3D modeling of the tumor and treating only the tumor area. If you want a second opinion in Dallas I would be glad to give you a place to stay and transportation provided for you. Praying for any type of peace and comfort for you and wisdom and guidance for everyone to find the best possible course of action for you.

Ed


SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0
Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03
Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08.
Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11
Cervical Myelitis 09/12
Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12
Dysautonomia 11/12
Hospice care 09/12-01/13.
COPD 01/14
Intermittent CHF 6/15
Feeding tube NPO 03/16
VFI 12/2016
ORN 12/2017
Cardiac Event 06/2018
Bilateral VFI 01/2021
Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022
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There is another specialized radiation, called Intrabeam, similar to IORT, and more targeted like SBRT, that Ed mentioned. This is used for breast cancer in TARGiT therapy, but heard of a H&N cancer patient seeing about it, possibly in Ind, but may have just been the lymph node.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
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Kelly

Oh no. When it looked like they would not give me any more radiation, Brian had found this one trial. It turns out my CCC at Georgetown was involved in it. I went with the third round of radiation and cyberknife and boy you are right about the price you pay for that. It's worse than anything I suffered through before. Here's the link

http://bethesdatrials.cancer.gov/cl...C_0116&utm_campaign=email_newsletter

Keep us posted
Charm


65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

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M'dear Kelly. I was reading some of the replies and just knew I did not want to read your most recent news. I hear the "treatment fatigue" in your writing and who wouldn't feel that after everything you have been through. As you make this decision, I pray for wisdom for you and then for complete peace for you once you have made this decision.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Hugs

Donna


Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
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Charm,

That study requires HPV positive diagnosis. I did not have HPV.

I have been following your posts and was suprised at the level of pain and side effects you are experiencing this time around. I am currently on a constant regime of pain meds due to the combined effects of the ulcer neer the tonsil, severe fibrosis and nerve damage in the jaw.

Adding to that (even if its curative) may just make life intolerable. If I thought it would deminish over time I would be very open to a new round of radfiation but I fear I might go over a tipping point into a living hell of permanent pain and necrosis.

I talked with the doctor doing the viral study on Friday and hope to hear from the RO and MO early next week. I am also reading up on all the suggestions I am getting here. I am trying to narrow them down but that is hard as each shows some promise.

I'll keep you posted.


Kelly
Male
48, SCC (Soft Palet) Rt.,
Stage 1, T3n0m0,
Dx, 8-09, Start IMRT 35 9-2-09 end 10-21-09
04-20-10 NED
8-11 recurrence, node rt. neck N2b
10-11 33 IMRT w/chemo wkly
3-12-12 PET - residual cancer
4-12 5 treatments with Cyberknife & Erbitux
6-19-12 Pet scan CLEAR
12-3-12 PET - CLEAR
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Uptown,

Charm and I both were treated with SBRT this last time around. We just call it by its genaric name of cyberknife.


Kelly
Male
48, SCC (Soft Palet) Rt.,
Stage 1, T3n0m0,
Dx, 8-09, Start IMRT 35 9-2-09 end 10-21-09
04-20-10 NED
8-11 recurrence, node rt. neck N2b
10-11 33 IMRT w/chemo wkly
3-12-12 PET - residual cancer
4-12 5 treatments with Cyberknife & Erbitux
6-19-12 Pet scan CLEAR
12-3-12 PET - CLEAR
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