| Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 Member | OP Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 | Hi all. Recently diagnosed with SCC BOT Stage 4 with numerous nodes on both sides. Have met with the medical oncologist and have an appointment on Monday with the radiation oncologist and the surgeon for the port and the PEG. I decided to get the PEG but don't plan on using it or at least using it very much. My plan is to force myself to swallow regardless of the pain. PET scan scheduled for Tuesday. I am just scared and can't quit crying. Chemo and radiation scheduled to start on or about December 3rd. How did you all get it together for your families and friends?
Age 52 at Dx, SCC,Stage IV BOT and PET shows only 1 node, T4N1M0, smoker (quit Nov 16 2012, non drinker, scheduled for Cisplatin x 7 with concurrent IMRT x 35 plus additional 3 months of Cisplatin. Dec 2013 - NED
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Dear Emilie,
My husband has almost exactly the same diagnosis as yours. He just started radiation this week and had his first session of chemo yesterday. I think I understand what you must be feeling right now. We have decided to tell our friends and family the facts as laid out for us by the doctors. I have found that each time I tell people about this, it helps me to face it a little better. This forum has done a lot in teaching me what I need to know about oral cancer. Knowing the facts is one way of wresting control back from the disease. Good luck and lot of hugs to you.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. in 2009, at age 48. I was diagnosed with cancer in the tonsil, BOT, Valleculla, and three bilateral Lymph nodes. I was so positive, and thought I was stronger than cancer, so I told some like it was a cold. It proved to be much more difficult than that, and had four more recurences after, and more humble, realistic now. I was pretty independent, and lived alone, so no spouse, children to deal with, which is easier news wise, but difficult to do it alone all this time, and you will need all the support you can find either on line or in your personal life. Unfortunately, I did not go to any blogs, sites, but did my own reaserch for a short while, since after my chrmo I was no longer possile to do for a very long time..1 year. I guess there is no right or wrong way to deal with it or tell others, just what works for you, and gets you through this treatment. All the best.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | Hi Emilie - You've come to the best place to be for all the latest and accurate information, plus lots of support from people who have travelled the road you are on now. It's great that you quit smoking! Yay! You already done something really difficult to do and looks like you are all set with a plan. The waiting for anything to happen is always the worst time but it helps if you can keep busy and try to think of all the ways everything can go just the way it's supposed to. If the negative thoughts start to creep into your head, just tell them to cut the chatter and force yourself to think of other more positive things. Tell your doctor how you are feeling - he might be able to prescribe something to help lessen the anxiety. Are you at a Comprehensive Cancer Center (where a team of doctors get together to help you decide on the best approach for your particular needs)? Have you already had surgery? There is so much really good information that you can check out on the main pages of OCF and it can help you formulate any questions you might have for your doctors or for anyone here. I'm sure others will be along with experiences that more closely match yours and can give you more suggestions. When my son was first diagnosed with SCC, just waiting for his surgery date was a crazy-maker but we did get through it and you will too! Dec 3rd will be here soon, so hang in there and there will be lots of people to help you through it. Come back often to let us know how you are doing.
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Emilie After 5 years and three bout with cancer, from my point of view, the task of "getting it together for family and friends" should really be their task to get it together for you. But I hear you as that is not what happens. Take a look at our long running thread: Don;t you hate it when for a quick glimpse of how people react. People want you to be positive and upbeat, like all the cool cancer patients in the TV shows: you know : Noble, with a new appreciation of life. strong, etc. don't you just hate it when thread Everybody just assumed that I was "a fighter and too tough to get beaten" so I really didn't have to get anything together but only smile and nod. It is scary and feel free to worry and cry here on the board. We know just how scary this is and we all have had very very dark nights of the soul. Survival is doable and you can beat this. Keep the Faith Charm
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65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 118 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 118 | Welcome Emilie, My husband was just diagnosed with SCC BOT Sstage III. We are waiting for his surgery which is scheduled for Dec. 5th. My suggestion to you and what worked for us, is to tell everyone exactly what is told to you by the docs. And then in te next breath tell your family that you can't do it alone and that you will need thier help. It's really okay to ask. That's what family and friends are for. It's not an easy treatment. Rad and chemo make you very ill. You will be thankful in the end that reeached out to them and they were there for you. I wish you well and hope everything works out.
Bette/CG to husband Reggie 66
dx 1: SCC Soft Palate (12/06) tx: chemo and rad
dx 2: SCC 6 cm tum rt. vocal chord (12/09) tx: total laryngectomy with stoma, 2 nodes
dx 3: SCC 4 cm tum BOT (10/16/12) Tx: partial gloss w/ mod deck dis 4 nodes incl. part. pharyngectomy
| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 Member | OP Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 | All, Thanks for the kind words. I guess I have had to be strong for so long...Single Mom my son's entire life, Caregiver for mom who had vascular dementia for 10 years. She passed last year and I finally thought my life was going to get back to "normal". Then the cancer diagnosis. Luckily I have the full support of my son who lives with me. I am going to try not to impose upon him too much, but I know I will have to at some point. He is 21 and even though he won't say it, I know he is worried. I have been reading many of the forum pages and it is so nice I am not alone. Thank you all.
Age 52 at Dx, SCC,Stage IV BOT and PET shows only 1 node, T4N1M0, smoker (quit Nov 16 2012, non drinker, scheduled for Cisplatin x 7 with concurrent IMRT x 35 plus additional 3 months of Cisplatin. Dec 2013 - NED
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | Of course you are not alone, Emilie. We are all here for you so please come here as often as you need to. I'm glad your son is with you and I know he must be worried. That's what people do who love each other. I worried about my son when he was in treatment and tried to hide it from him so I could put on the "Happy Face" but I found out that he worried about me, too and all that he saw me doing for him. I set him straight, though and told him that the things I was doing for him were exactly what I so very much needed to do, to keep busy so I wouldn't be sitting in a corner someplace having anxiety attacks! So, do rely on your son, because I'm sure it will help him to keep busy and stay positive and to feel that he is really making a difference in helping you get better. As others have said, now is the time to let family and friends in to help as well. Make a list of the things you might need done, like rides to Rad Tx, picking up prescriptions, doing laundry, whatever. That way if somebody says "Is there anything I can do?" you or your son can show them the list and they can pick what they feel comfortable doing. People do want to help and sometimes they just aren't sure what you need or what they can do for you. Hope everything goes well with your appointment on Dec 3rd.
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Hi Emilie, I know exectly what the "strong" steroetype is all about. I had all sorts of people tell me that "felt sorry for cancer, 'cause it picked on the wrong girl".
Those are the people I tend to smile and nod and say "damn straight" to.
The people who know you, and who really care will see your stress. Let them. And if you don't feel like you can, cry in the shower - that's what I did. Or cry here. We all get it.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Emilie,
Since you are committed to not using the PEG "unless"...then I would recommend you consider forgoing the PEG and if you do get to that point of "unless" then you can get a nasal tube like I did. I't totally painless, nonsurgerical and only takes a couple of minutes to feed down your throat and you can even pull it out at home when you don't need it anymore.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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