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Not only are you NOT too young for HPV+ OC, but you are not too young for HPV- OC (such as mine). I was diagnosed at age 37. I never smoked. I can't remember the last time I had a drink...I don't drink now and when I did, it was on rare occasions. Medical anomalies happen more than you think. THE ONLY DEFINITIVE WAY TO DIAGNOSE A LESION IS VIA BIOPSY! Don't waste time with ultrasounds. Get pushy and advocate for yourself. This is your life and you ARE far too young to lose it. Yes, I'm being blunt and bossy, but it's because I care, too! We all do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. wink

Hopefully, this is nothing serious and you can move on with your life. That is my sincerest wish for you.

Take care and I'll be thinking of you,
Kerri


37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11)
SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors)
L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg
T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo
Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-)
Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx.
Various scans since rx ended are NED!
Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH.
44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
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Thanks, everyone. I think the reason for the ultrasound is to evaluate the density (apparently, you can guess what it might be based on its ultrasound properties like whether it's hard to soft, etc...although I'm not a fan of medical guesswork). Also, if they ever biopsy it, they will use an ultrasound (especially since right now, the radiologists don't agree on where the lesion is, and I really don't want them to hit the wrong place).

Unfortunately, they refused the ultrasound-guided biopsy and told me they already booked a repeat US and appointment this fall, but that's too far away for me. So, I booked an appointment with a major medical center. I'm seeing an ENT/H&N surgeon who's supposedly familiar with the HPV-OC connection, so in addition to evaluating this parotid/lymph/whatever issue, I'll be asking him for a full OC examination. I'll have all my records so perhaps they'll let me get the biopsy there.

I know I'm definitely not too young for OC, irrespective of HPV status. The difficulty is in getting my physicians to listen and take action! Even mentioning it causes them to dismiss me as a paranoid hypochondriac (I hate that label as it pretty much ensures you don't get properly evaluated). Does anyone have any tips on how to get a doctor to listen and take you seriously? I thought about taking medical literature from this site but was advised against that. I didn't have this problem at Hopkins because they were already well-versed on the latest.

Has anyone here had a core needle biopsy? I read it takes a bigger specimen, gives more information, and is more sensitive than a FNA/FNB, but that it has a higher likelihood of spreading cancer or tumor cells elsewhere.

I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Thank you.

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Yes, that was how they did Kevin's. They took 3 punch biopsies of the huge lymph node. They tested it right away and when the lab person came back in she said "You can do another one if you want, but I have what I need." I knew then what our answer was going to be. They wouldn't know negative in 15 minutes.
I'm glad you are going to a specialist. When did you get the appt? Keep in touch with us!


Kathy wife/caregiver to:
Kevin age:53
Dx 7/15/11
HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R
Non smoker, casual drinker
7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11
PEG placed 9/1/11 Removed 11/8/11
Clear PET 10/12 and 10/13 and ct in 6/14
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reverie wrote:

"I thought about taking medical literature from this site but was advised against that. I didn't have this problem at Hopkins because they were already well-versed on the latest."

I had a notebook with my questions. I printed the appliable pages of the NCCN Guidelines. If I were doing this again (and I sincerely hope I will not!) I would also include a calendar for planning purposes and appointments.

ChristineB collects everyone's card and attaches them to the notebook.

If you have your questions written down (and room to write down the answers) you will be - and look - more professional. The NCCN Guidelines got me instant credibility with the MO and ENT.


CG to husband - SCC Tonsil T1N2M0 HPV+ Never Smoker
First symptoms 7/2010, DX 12/2010
TX 40 IRMT (1.8 gy) + 10 Cetuximab
PET Scans 6/2011 + 3/2012 clear, 5 year physical exam clear; chest CT's clear of cancer. On thyroid pills. Life is good.
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Personally, I would be very wary of any doctor who treated me as dismissive when I would raise my concerns to them. If your physician acts like this when you are asking about a potentially serious and dangerous medical situation then its time to get a new doctor. I would also suggest you call your insurance company and advise them of the caliber of doctor you have visited. Im glad to hear you will be seeing a doctor who is familiar with HPV/OC patients. Here is some more detailed info about HPV and cancer.
HPV and OC
NCI HPV info


The rule goes, if you have a sore in your mouth for over 2 weeks then its time to get it checked by a professional. The sores you have should be checked and a tissue sample taken so you get a definitive answer.

Maria is right about what I do with business cards. I collect one from every single doctor I visit and staple them to the back page of my notebook. I write down all my questions and their answers in the notebook. Since I have every doctors business card, I can always find the specialist I need easily even if I have only visited them once.

Good luck with your appointment.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
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Another alternative for those business cards is the plastic sleeve pages that office supply places sell with slots for each card and punched for a three ring binder.

I too kept a notebook with tabs for different subject matter/doctors and those pages for business cards and carried that with me to every doctor's appointment. As you all know, each appointment with a new doctor requires the patient to fill out forms and provider/insurance information, so if you have your notebook handy, no need to look up phone numbers, dates, policy #s, etc. It was a life saver.

Deb


Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!

Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
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