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My mom is anxious to get home--she is in a rehab facility now-and we thought we would try bolus feeds 5-6x a day instead of a continous gravity feed. This would help her to not feel so tied to a machine. She has really had challenges with food--she's on ??? 1.5 (osmolite?) which apparently is good for those with sensitive digestive systems. Her challenges are intolerance (vomiting) and explosive loose stools. She's also only about 90 lbs. Our primary concerns with bolusing is tolerance to so much at a time as well as if it's enough calories.

The nutritionist at the facility is holding off on making a change until I can get some "expert advice". So please, forge forth! Personal stories, recs on formulas, etc. I take everything y'all say here as gospel!

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Mom age 84 dx stage IV papillary cancer mandible 10/10; non-smoker, drinker, HPV-. Surgery 2/16/2011; mandibulectomy. 0 pos lymph nodes, has been in long-term hospital since March 2011. Returned home 8/11, permanent PEG tube.
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There are 3 ways to do feedings. the bolus method is fast and can cause problems with bloating, diarrhea and stomach upset. Since your mother already has issues with this, the bolus method may not work. Next is gravity which is a bit slower but still faster than when using the feeding pump. Same issues will exist.

I am unable to do either the gravity or bolus methods. I have tied several times and with several different formulas. So I use the feeding pump. While I would really like to use the other methods, this wont work for me. Maybe your mother has the same sensitive digestive system and will need to use the pump. Ive used a feeding tube for several years so I know all the little tricks and ins and outs of doing the feedings. A nutritionist should know these things too. I have found the younger nutritionists do not have much feeding tube experience with adults.

Using the feeding pump, I add water and keep it slow. This will solve your mothers problems. Start her out by adding 2 cans of water to ever 3 cans of formula. Keep the rate very slow at first, 40 ml per hour to start. Once she tolerates this for a few days, increase it by 20 ml per hour. Do the feeding pump overnight so she sleeps thru most of the feedings. Make sure the head of her bed is propped up and that she sleeps on at least 2 pillows.


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Sorry if this response is too late but thought I would weigh in with Alex's issues and our solutions.

Alex went from 75kgs (165 pounds) to 48kgs (105) during his illness and was hospitalised last May because of it. His weight loss was a combination of the cancer and his inability to tolerate TwoCal taken via PEG at least 6-8 times a day. He was doing 4 on his good days and 2 on most. He was switched to Nutrison via an electric pump which gave him 2000 calories over 8 hours which was administered overnight. Over time we were able to speed it up and just before he went back to oral feeds (only about 2 months ago), he actually had the thing going at full tilt whilst watching TV before going to bed. He could run his feeds at 400mL an hour which meant he could consume 2000 calories in about 3 hours. This was a speed he worked up to and the nutritionist was not thrilled with as she was concerned about reflux and aspiration. He had to promise to stay upright through the feed and for about an hour after. She was also concerned because he was essentially taking on the equivalent of an entire days nutrition in one sitting.

When he tried the next step of going back to bolus feeds, he was sick. We tried watering it down, and slowing it down and these all worked but it made feeds slow, messy and tied Alex to his PEG more than he was prepared to tolerate.

We finally went to the primary care physician (oncologists were uninterested and less than helpful) with questions about Alex's gastro-intestinal health and asked if somehow the emptying of the stomach had slowed down or stopped for some reason associated with either cancer, longtime lack of real food, or even the cancer treatment. He didn't know the answers but he prescribed Maxalon which is used to stop vomiting by getting peristalsis going again (causes food/stomach contents to get moving through the system) and Somac to treat reflux.

Don't know which worked but one or both did. Alex now takes Somac every day and Maxalon 20 minutes before he eats if he is feeling a bit fragile. He is now on oral feeds of Ensure Plus 8-10 cartons per day and still stuggles to put on weight but at least he isn't losing it. Some days he goes over 62kgs (136 pounds) and then whilst his laurels are poking him in the butt, he backslides to minimum quantities of Ensure which means he undoes all his good work.

Solid food continues to give him a hard time and he cannot get beyond 3 or 4 mouthfuls of anything. He also struggles with the smell of food which makes him nauseous.

Alex used his PEG from March 2010 till about April/May 2011 when he switched to oral liquid feeds. This requires more discipline, but is much more convenient as it can be taken anywhere and he can drink it in public easily. He continues to hang on to his PEG "just in case".

Ask your doctor about treatment for nausea and reflux and see if they think it might help your mother if she wants to continue with bolus feeds. If not, try an electric pump and try different formulas. Alex cannot tolerate Twocal to this day even WITH his antinausea meds.

I also wonder if chemo altered the state of his stomach and he now has an overgrowth of stomach bacteria causing problems (like when you take a course of some antibiotics). I have been trying to convince him to take some of those probiotic preparations (Yakhult) but he seems to think that consuming one once a month constitutes regular use so this has not been a terribly successful strategy so far...

The explosive diarrhoea still plagues Alex and we think it is high nutrition administered devoid of fibre via almost all the liquid feeds. IF you find the solution to this problem, Alex and I would be very interested. There is a high fibre liquid feed but Alex won't shift from the devil he knows right now(don't blame him either after what he's been through).


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Thanks all for the great advice--like I said earlier, y'all are the ultimate authority that I go by. Based on what y'all have said, I'm not going to bolus--I am going to look into the high-frequency (starting small) feeds overnight.


Mom age 84 dx stage IV papillary cancer mandible 10/10; non-smoker, drinker, HPV-. Surgery 2/16/2011; mandibulectomy. 0 pos lymph nodes, has been in long-term hospital since March 2011. Returned home 8/11, permanent PEG tube.

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