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Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 72 | For those with HPV+ cancer intent on trying nature cures, �death by chocolate� would certainly be less costly than most treatments, alternative or otherwise. http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20110125/bs_prweb/prweb4997284_1"Indulgent chocolate treats may be the best-known and most widely appreciated product of the cacao tree, but new scientific research is uncovering potential new applications for the antioxidant-rich beans which could spur an innovative approach to treating human papillomavirus ( HPV), a precursor to cervical cancer." as well as oral cancer. Tim�s cancer wasn�t HPV, but for prophylactic measures, I�m adding some Dove Dark in with my daily coffee, another oral cancer fighter. 
Susan, CG to husband, diagnosed April 2010, age 56, non-smoker, no HPV
Mandibulectomy on left side May 2010 followed by 30 radiation, 3 cisplatin treatments.
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 65 | The effects of these compounds in a variety of sources has been of scientific interest for more than a decade. But in order to get the amount of epicatechin-based super antioxidant compounds that would have clinical effect, perhaps you should think about having dark chocolate delivered to your home by the truck load. The compounds required for clinical impact that has been documented at Penn are distilled from POUNDS of raw cacao seeds administered to animals over months, and of course a bar of chocolate only has a small portion of these seeds in it. So perhaps a pair of stretch sweat pants should be included in the regime!!!
But seriously, while a long way from a patient-ready solution to the problem, if it works well, and is cost effective, and most of all - patentable (someone has to make money at this or no one is going to do anything with it), it's the first really interesting path anyone has found. The "protectable" aspects of the idea are crucial for it to move forward, as we saw with the great early work on curcumin. There was no way to protect the final product as a business product, and extensive research of a promising natural occurring chemical was abandoned. All that research money and the results of what they found if positive, would just be copied by everyone and their brother. Investment down the toilet even though mankind may have been bettered. This is a huge problem in big pharma.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 | Darn it Brian...I was doing my best here with clinical trials of Hershey's Special Dark Nuggets with Almonds!
I call them my happy pills and take two daily. Guess I will have to continue under the guise of psychotherapy.
Deb
Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!
Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Deb,
Did Louis Pasteur give up just because someone told him his trials were useless? I doubt it! Even if it causes untold hardship you must continue!
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 | [quote=davidcpa]Deb,
Did Louis Pasteur give up just because someone told him his trials were useless? I doubt it! Even if it causes untold hardship you must continue! [/quote]
I must and...I will!
Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!
Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
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Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | "Death by chocolate" - I could think of worse ways to die!
Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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"You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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GM, for John who has SCC Rt tonsil with 3+ nodes, Stage T1 N2b MX; surgery 04/09; Rad X 33 completed 7/14/09...f/u imaging and scopes looking good as of Feb 2011
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