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#12760 11-13-2007 04:21 PM
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Hey Billy, Congrats on the tube being out! Mine got infected before my treatments began. In fact I ended up at the ER the weekend before my first rad and chemo was to start. Had to delay the start for a week while I healed and got strength back. Ended 35 rads and 7 chemos on 9/17/07. Had the PEG taken out 3 weeks later. Although I did use it a lot from week 5 till one week after, I couldn't wait to get it out. I had to change dressings a couple of times per day because it leaked around the tube and it hurt most of the time. Oh well it served it's purpose and it is out! Although it was pretty cool to be able to play cards and be eating at the same time with the tube! Now if I can just get my saliva glands to work at 100%....

Bruce (SCC Base of the tongue, stage 3)


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Age 57 SCC Stage3 BOT and 1 node PEG 35RADS
7CHEMOS Tx over 9-17-07 tube out 10-12-07 back to work 10-15-07.
#12761 11-20-2007 01:31 PM
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scheduled to have my tube out this monday nov 26...been in about 7 months....still little or no saliva..eating is difficult..drink boost...have not used the tube for almost two weeks now experimenting...but have lost 4 pounds...have to find a way to force more food down..it's hard tho with little taste or saliva...doctors say push forward...i'm still early in the recovery process. anyway monday is th day.

#12762 11-20-2007 01:47 PM
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Always keep in mind Wayne that it is your choice whether or not the tube comes out. If you dont feel comfortable with it then by all means leave it in. One of the main reasons I got my tube out was yto force myself to eat more regular foods. I knew with it out there was no more depending on the tube. Like I said bud, if you arent 100% sure that you dont need it then leave it in until you are.

Billy


Dx Mar 07 with Base Of Tongue Stage IV. IMRT 35x with 3 doses Cysplatin ran concurrent. Tx ended May 31,07. Left and right node involved. Radical neck disection 7/18/07
#12763 11-20-2007 02:33 PM
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Buzz gets his PEG out a week from tomorrow! His was placed on August 27; he hasn't used it in the past couple of weeks, although I really feel that he should have, as he is still at 162 lbs (down from 185-188 consistently for the past 27 years!)

Billy: did it hurt? I have told Buzz to take a pain pill AND a Lorazapam beforehand...


CG to 77 y/o hubby;SCC Alveolar Ridge; Wake Forest Baptist Hosp surgery: 07/19/07; bi mod radical resection/jaw replacement;
T2 N2-B M0 Stage IV-A
28 IMRT +
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Getting stronger every day!
#12764 11-20-2007 02:49 PM
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The second time I had it done it hurt for a little while but after 15 or 20 minutes the hurt went away and then it was sore for a few days.

Pain pill is a good idea.


Dx Mar 07 with Base Of Tongue Stage IV. IMRT 35x with 3 doses Cysplatin ran concurrent. Tx ended May 31,07. Left and right node involved. Radical neck disection 7/18/07
#12765 11-21-2007 04:35 AM
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Hey,
Mine hurt (well not the horrible hurt we think of) but just an unusual tugging that feels like your stomach is coming out and then it is over!
TAKE A pain pill because it will be sore later that evening and in the middle of the night.
Good luck!
Debbie


Partial mandibulectomy and neck dissection 2/3/07. T2NOMO.
Had 14 hour operation which included reconstruction of jaw.
Reconstruction failed. Some radiation, no chemo.
#12766 11-21-2007 04:35 AM
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Hey,
Mine hurt (well not the horrible hurt we think of) but just an unusual tugging that feels like your stomach is coming out and then it is over!
TAKE A pain pill because it will be sore later that evening and in the middle of the night.
Good luck!
Debbie


Partial mandibulectomy and neck dissection 2/3/07. T2NOMO.
Had 14 hour operation which included reconstruction of jaw.
Reconstruction failed. Some radiation, no chemo.
#12767 11-21-2007 07:34 AM
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bill...thanks for thoughts on peg coming out.
home for lunch today...1/2 egg salad sandwich dipped in new england clam chowder and swallowed with milk...other days hotdog wrapped in bread and dipped in chicken noodle soup...swallowed with milk.....how long can i keep forcing stuff down my throat that has little taste and is thick and dry from no saliva. sorry to dump this on the forum but i sure do get depressed thinking about the rest of my life not being able to sit down and enjoy a regular meal like all others in my circles. i know i know think of others in worse shape....easy to say hard to do.
guess i should tell the forum the other half of my tragedy this year....two weeks before i was diagnosed with stage 2 tonsil cancer....my 20 year old daughter hung herself leaving a 1 year old grandson for my wife and i to raise. the father is a long time heroin addict and currently in jail. have not had time to properly grieve as radiation and chemo started right away..treatments hit me hard as my whole family on my moms side is thin....i weighed 135 goin in. came down to 115 after 7 weeks treatments. then up to 121 until stopped using nutren2 and the tube. lost lost another 4 lbs since then but as i said doctors want the tube out. i agree with them...i hate the thing. also time to come off the roxicet and ativan....so thats pretty much my whole story....i have to admit...waking up every morning with a god-awful dry/sticky mouth(no matter how many times i get up and gargle/rinse/squirt)is difficult to manage psychologically(my wife and i do go for counselling). some days i feel things are improving...but then there are the other days.
trying to end this pity party but once again easier said than done...thanks for any and all replies.

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Billy FANTASTIC NEWS! So proud of you! I know its a bit daunting to get back to the regular eating world. Just take things slow and if you feel you aren't getting enough calories at first - down a few ensures throughout the day. Eventually you'll get up to speed. It took me several months but I am now pretty much on par with everyone else. I don't taste as much and I eat slower but I still eat most everything I used to love!

Wishing you a very happy thanksgiving. With all that good smelling tasty food around you this season...you'll be back at it in no time.


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Finished all treatments May 25 2007
Surviving!!!
#12769 11-21-2007 09:48 AM
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Hello Wayne.
My what a load you and your wife have to bear, so many losses. I am glad to hear that you are getting counselling, as you need all the support you can get, to help you through this multitude of challenges.
You sound like you are doing not too badly with the eating given the obstacles of mouth dryness and little taste. Have you had help from nutrionist or dietician on boosting the calories in the things that you eat and making higher calorie food choices?
My husband who is now 8 months out of treatment had a big problem with depression but seems to be getting better emotionally as he feels better physically. Hopefully this will be the case for you also. Eventually the good days will outnumber the bad, the worst is behind you.
Joan


Caregiver to husband Dx. Stage 4 SCC of gingiva with 3 nodes pos. Partial mandiblectomy with bone graft from iliac crest Dec. 2006. IMRT x30, Cisplatin x3. Completed Tx. March 15, 2007. Osteonecrosis & removal of graft & plate Oct. 2007. Recurrence of SCC Dec. 2007. Deceased Jan. 17, 2008.
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