| Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 | Charm,
Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts. They are more appreciated than I can express.
Twin brother Stage 4. Mouth, tongue, jaw, throat, neck and vocal chords. Not a candidate for surgery or chemo due to earlier health issues this year. He is opting for no treatment. He smoked and drank. Nutritional levels were not at their highest the last several years.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 | Has anyone encountered a loved one with delerium early in the morning? My brother does not seem to know exactly where he is and has begun hallucinating. It lasts for about an hour and is usually shortly after he awakens. After that, back to normal.
Twin brother Stage 4. Mouth, tongue, jaw, throat, neck and vocal chords. Not a candidate for surgery or chemo due to earlier health issues this year. He is opting for no treatment. He smoked and drank. Nutritional levels were not at their highest the last several years.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 | Perhaps the side effects from pain meds?? The only time I experienced this was when Bill was hospitalized toward the end of treatment and they were giving him morphine IV. He was seeing bugs crawling on the sheets and said that "they" were washing down the room walls with a hose. Once home and off the morphine, no "visions"
Hugs, Deb
Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997. DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0 TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5. TREATMENT END: 10/1/07 PEG OUT: 1/08 PORT OUT: 4/09 FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!
Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 | It's possible, but he is only on hydrocodone and does not take more that 2 doses of that per day (if we get him to take 2...often times only one). I am thinking the cancer in mets to the brain or liver. No real way of knowing since he wants no treatment. When the delerium starts it is that he does not know where he is (he may be at home but thinks we are in a grocery store) or having conversations with folks who are not there. Given that he is really not eating much of anything though, the meds may ultimately be the cause. Thanks Deb
Lori
Twin brother Stage 4. Mouth, tongue, jaw, throat, neck and vocal chords. Not a candidate for surgery or chemo due to earlier health issues this year. He is opting for no treatment. He smoked and drank. Nutritional levels were not at their highest the last several years.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 | Lori,
If his nutrition is compromised, this can also be a "sugar" related issue. Blood sugar issues can cause lots of dementia type behaviors.
I am so sorry...this has got to be so hard. I know you said he is opting for no treatment but how about supportive measures such as proper pain meds and fluids and food supplements?
Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997. DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0 TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5. TREATMENT END: 10/1/07 PEG OUT: 1/08 PORT OUT: 4/09 FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!
Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Lori, I am so sorry to read your story about what is happening with yoru brother. I cant even begin to imagine how hard it must be for you and your family to watch this happen right before your eyes. Im sure you all must feel so helpless. Im very very sorry!!!! One thing that should be a huge help is hospice, its good that they are there helping him.
One medication that may be helpful for his pain is the fentanyl patch. It gets changed every 3 days, its much easier to keep him painfree with a steady dose of medicine. Ask the doc. Im not very familiar with hospice policies or if they can get a different medication, but maybe they could help with the patch.
Prayers to you and your brother. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | Off to Glasgow soon so this will be a quick response. Low sodium (salt) is also a cause of "confusion" especially if someone has poor kidney function. Given your brother has issues with kidneys I would be taking him the doctor for blood tests. All the other suggestions are good ones too, and no matter what, it needs a trip to the doctor.
Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 | All,
Thank you so very much for your input. It has helped in ways that I can not begin to explain. My brother, gets a bit weaker each day. That said, this weekend he chooses to be with a lovely woman from his complex. My mother has concerns (because she can not control this)I don't. My thought is that he is an adult and deserves time alone when possible. This is probably the last possible weekend. So, Mom comes to my house this weekend and my brother is with his Lady Love. The End
Twin brother Stage 4. Mouth, tongue, jaw, throat, neck and vocal chords. Not a candidate for surgery or chemo due to earlier health issues this year. He is opting for no treatment. He smoked and drank. Nutritional levels were not at their highest the last several years.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 | Christine,
Thank you so much for your kindness and suggestions. He is failing quickly so we will see what time allows us. Thank you for your compassion and caring.
Lori Lee
Twin brother Stage 4. Mouth, tongue, jaw, throat, neck and vocal chords. Not a candidate for surgery or chemo due to earlier health issues this year. He is opting for no treatment. He smoked and drank. Nutritional levels were not at their highest the last several years.
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | Lori Lee feel free to pm me if you need an ear or a shoulder x
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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