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#11417 07-18-2007 03:37 PM
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Hello all,
I am just past a year out from the completion of my treatment for SCC of the tongue - Chemo/IMRT. I was stage 2 with no metastisis. Everything to date has been right on target for healing and no signs of recurrence. I'd had two PET scans following treatment which showed no metastisis whatsoever. I just had my third follow up PET/CT last week, and really felt positive about the outcome.

I got the results. The findings go like this: "Moderately increased FDG accumulation within and enlarging infrahyoid right internal jugular vein lymph node. This has developed since the prior examination October 2006 and is concerning for metastatic spread of the patient's primary tumor. No evidence of recurrence of the primary tumor on this examination."

I could clearly see the white spot on the PET images - where there was never any white before and way down at the base of my neck, where I'd never had any other issues during or after treatment.

So...I'm not a doctor and I guess I'm not supposed to be able to interpret that but it seems pretty obvious. I'll be at my primary doctor on Monday and I guess I'll find out what he thinks I should do.

Is surgery probably the most likely outcome? I'm trying to study up on other cases where people have had lymph node metastisis after the primary tumor has cleared up, and get a feel for what I'm going to be looking at.

thanks,
Steve


Age 41 - Stage 2 SCC tongue Dx 2/06. Cisplatin x3, IMRT x35. Mets to neck node discovered 7/07. RND 40 nodes removed, margins not clear. Cisplatin, Taxotere, 5-FU Fall 07, then IMXT/Erbitux for 7 wks. Inoperable mets to both lungs and pleura Dx Oct'08. 4 cycles Carboplatin, Erbitux, 5-FU so far.
#11418 07-18-2007 04:38 PM
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Steve,

Sorry to hear that you may have a met to your lymphnode. Remember it's not for sure until you get a biopsy. I hope and pray that this is a false positive for you.

Not sure about most likeley course of treatment for you, what were your prior treatments?

Tim


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63 yr old. Dx Jun 06 with BOT Stage IV. Neck dissesction on 19 Jun 06. Started Tx on 21 Aug 06/completed 33 IMRTs and 3 CT (2 Cisplat & 1 Carboplat) on 5 Oct 06.
#11419 07-18-2007 05:51 PM
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Dear steve
what a worrying time for you.I know when Robin had his neck dissection they removed his internal jugular because it is very susceptible to spread.Did you have surgery?From my anatomy lessons i guess infra hyoid is somewhere near the hyoid bone at the front of the throat,what a worry,but dont get to alarmed until you have a differential diagnosis.Let us know how you get on.


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
#11420 07-18-2007 06:36 PM
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I did not have surgery - 3 rounds of Cisplatin chemo and IMRT x 35.

Would they do a biopsy of such a lymph node and not just take it out? The corresponding CT scan also indicated slight enlargement of the lymph node. I know when I was healing from radiation, they explained to me that healing, scarred tissue could show false positive on PET. It just seems to me where there's no chance that this location is just healing scar tissue (it's not within my original treatment area), the PET/CT would be a pretty strong indication.

I guess if they want to just biopsy that's ok but the idea of leaving it in there makes me nervous. Seems like they'd want to just get it out to be safe.

thanks
Steve


Age 41 - Stage 2 SCC tongue Dx 2/06. Cisplatin x3, IMRT x35. Mets to neck node discovered 7/07. RND 40 nodes removed, margins not clear. Cisplatin, Taxotere, 5-FU Fall 07, then IMXT/Erbitux for 7 wks. Inoperable mets to both lungs and pleura Dx Oct'08. 4 cycles Carboplatin, Erbitux, 5-FU so far.
#11421 07-18-2007 07:56 PM
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Steve,
"Salvage" surgery would be one option but since it is in a different location you could conceivably get IMRT again. We're getting ahead of ourselves here though - you still need a pathology report, either from a biopsy or FNA and possibly an MRI as well.

Remember that the reading radiologist has to notate every anomaly and it is only a part of the full diagnostic workup. False positives happen more commonly then false negatives on a PET ot PET/CT.

Hang in there.


Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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