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I went Pegless and lost 30% of my total body weight where I had none to loose. I didn't have the benefit of this site's wisdom either and I didn't listen enough to my wife but in spite of all of that I did make it through. Would I do it again without a Peg...Yes. Would I do it again without a Port...No.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Dehydration was never an issue for me without the PEG. Nor was any malnutrition. I lost all my body fat but I had substantial muscle mass to burn. I did give myself an imaginary medal for not getting a PEG. The parade of "horribles" of not getting a PEG don't happen to many of us. However, now that I was forced to get a PEG, I certainly do not want to start the PEG wars all over again as I did when I first posted in my enthusiasm to help others avoid swallowing problems. With apologies to Joni Mitchell:
[quote]I've looked at PEGS from both sides now,
From in and none, and still somehow,
It's PEG's illusions I recall,
I really don't know PEGS, at all.[/quote]
Charm

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65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

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[quote=davidcpa]I went Pegless and lost 30% of my total body weight where I had none to loose. I didn't have the benefit of this site's wisdom either and I didn't listen enough to my wife but in spite of all of that I did make it through. Would I do it again without a Peg...Yes. Would I do it again without a Port...No. [/quote]

Man, were in the same boat. I went from 160 to 130 and change. I had one doc (oncologist) telling me to go without, another (radiologist) telling me to get it. I'm glad I didn't but I wish like heck I'd gotten the port. It really blows now when I go to the doc and they have to poke me multiple times because the chemo ate up all my veins. Could be a lot worse though!


Dx 8.14.08. 42 at diagnosis. Stage IV Tonsil. Tonsillectomy 8.25.08. Induction chemo (9.29.08) (taxol and carboplatin) 5 weekly treatments. 35 rad and 6 concurrent chemos. Finished 12.22.08. No peg, no port. Neck dissection Feb. 09
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I went peg and tube less thru rad, chemo, and implants. Yep, I lost 70 lbs and felt good fo awhile. Now it is catching up and fast. My Dr screwed up by telling me I didn't need rads or chemo and that he got all of the Cancer. What a screw up he had there. The Dr. I saw last week siad that the one at OSU made a really big mistake by telling me this. He told me that I should have stayed in Wheeling at the CCC there because the Dr was well up on my case. The only thing I have left now is hope. It seems this nasty stuff robbed me of not only a future but of a good woman and all the good things about life. I hope you make out much better than this and go get the other opinions .


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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I will say that having a family that cares makes a great difference if they keep on your back and force things. I have my daughters heel marks on my back. LOL


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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Jim...so glad that someone is placing heel marks on your back. There is a time to be tough and brave but also a time to let people help you do the best thing for you. Please let them be the caretakers that you need right now...

Deb


Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
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Kyle, I luckily was spared the chemo ordeal but I did do 6 weeks of IMRT, preceded a month earlier by a radical neck dissection. I elected not to get a PEG and now, months later, regret it. At the time it seemed like a good decision, especially as I had a crisis during my neck surgery and almost didn't wake up, necessitating an emergency tracheotomy. So I was a little gunshy about another operation.

But the second half of RT and the two months or so following were such an ordeal - mouth and throat full of sores, swallowing disfunction, etc. - that in retrospect the PEG would've made life a lot easier. And maybe helped me keep on some of the 30 pounds I lost.

If you have a choice, I'd advise going with the PEG.

Good luck to you both!
David 2


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SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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Kyle:

I went through without a PEG, the team said they would see how I did in the 1st few weeks and I did ok. I was on a trail protocol that seemed to help withsores, etc. The last 2 weeks of treatments and the week or so after treatments were fairly rough and my diet consisted of water and ensure. I did lose 30lbs or so. I think part of that was no junk food. But I would listen to the other posters, I believe I was in the minority as far as pain and discomfort. As the Drs said, bad genes to get the cancer, great genes to handle treatments as well as I did. Based on this forum and asking my Drs, there is no "book" on who does well during treatments and who has a rough go of it. My only suggestion is be prepared for the worst and pray for the best.

Good Luck.


Bill Van Horn-53 ex-smoker, social drinker, Biopsy 8/24, Diagnosed 8/30/07 BOT T2N2-B MX Stage IV. Started treatments 10/1/07. IMRT 35 x, Cisplatin - 3 cycles - completed treatment 11/16/07. CT Scans on 1/15/08 all clear Selective neck dissection 1/28/08. All nodes clear.
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