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#10634 05-16-2007 12:00 AM
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On July the 1st smoking will be banned in all enclosed public places,and work areas in England.
In the press last week i read ann article about a small bag containing nictotine that the user places between the lip and the gum and it releses measured doses of nicotine.
SURELY this is asking for trouble.I dont know much about chewing tobacco ,but wont this have the same affect?
Liz in the UK


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
#10635 05-16-2007 04:08 AM
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Hey Liz

Thank You for the "Good luck Petey" post.

I know they have patches that are placed on different parts of the body to release nicotine, which are to help people quit smoking. But to put one between the lip and gum, or "cheek and gum" as with chewing tobacco, surely will raise the eyebrows of all oral cancer patients, especially those that used to "chew". I am as bewildered as you! I quess its the same all over. Money trumps wars. Money trumps tobacco. Tobacco trumps cancer??? If you were not in the UK, I would say "ONLY IN AMERICA"!

Is this government funded? If so, that would explain where the Erbitux money went to...Cynical? Who said I was cynical? Not Petey eek


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***Rapid Aggressive Recurrence 8-4-07 with same DX/TX. Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. Never Give Up! ****UPDATE**** Our dear friend Petey passed away, RIP 9-2-07
#10636 05-16-2007 06:51 AM
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Liz,
So is this going to kill pub life in England?!?! Will there be riots on the street? Maybe I'll visit England after all now ;-)

It's called nicotine rpelacement therapy (NRT) and gum is commonly used. It is absorbed through the lining in the mouth. How safe is that for oral cancer patients I do not know but I would hazard a giess that it's safer than smoking or chewing tobacco because you are "only" dealing with nicotine (which is used as a plant poison by the way) rather than all of the other mutagens and carcinogens in chew, snuff or smoke. I would incestigate using the patch as an alternative. I personally quit a 2 pack a day habit in 1976 cold turkey and have never relapsed.

Here are some facts about the gum:

The Food and Drug Administration approved nicotine gum (nicotine polacrilex) for prescription sale in 1984, and began allowing its sale without a prescription in February 1996.

Nicotine gum helps you quit by providing you with a source of nicotine apart from smoking. It comes in different strengths (usually 4mg or 2mg of nicotine per piece), which you choose from based on how much you smoke. Nicotine gum, like any nicotine replacement therapy, allows you to deal with the physical component of addiction over a longer period of time with less drastic withdrawal symptoms.

The advantages of nicotine gum are that you can take it when you need it (so long as you don't exceed the amount suggested by the directions), so that you can cut down on your nicotine as quickly or as slowly as you want; it is relatively inexpensive; and it provides some oral gratification of its own to replace the cigarettes.

The disadvantages are that you can't chew it while drinking soda or alcoholic beverages, so it's no good to you in a bar; it can make you feel sick if you chew it too fast; and it takes a long time for it to work, so if you wait for too long between pieces you can become extremely irritable while waiting for the piece you're chewing to affect you.

Nicotine gum allows tobacco users to break their habit in two stages: the smoker can first focus on overcoming the behavioral and psychological components of their habit without having to go through nicotine withdrawal at the same time; and they can wean themselves from nicotine at a later date of their own choosing, when there is no longer the psychological and behavioral urges to use.

The nicotine gum can be used by any interested tobacco user, but it can best benefit:

Heavy smokers (more than 10 cigarettes per day) or spit tobacco users who experience withdrawal symptoms when they quit.

Those who become extremely anxious if they go without tobacco for a few hours or days.

Those who prefer to control the dosage level of their Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT).

Those who intend to use nicotine gum in combination with behavioral and psychological strategies for tobacco cessation.

Those who derive significant satisfaction from the oral gratification of tobacco use.

Those who have a skin condition that could be irritated by using the nicotine patch.

Do not chew nicotine gum like ordinary chewing gum! Nicotine gum contains an ordinary chewing-gum base, but also contains nicotine bound to an inert resin. As a result of the physical action of chewing, molecules of nicotine are gradually dislodged from the resin. The nicotine is then absorbed into the bloodstream through the membranes that line the inside of the mouth. The gum also contains a buffer that maintains an acidity level that ensures the nicotine will be absorbed at a steady rate.

How to chew nicotine gum:

When you first put a new piece of nicotine gum in your mouth, chew it just enough to soften the medication and trigger the release of the nicotine. This usually requires chewing about 10 to 12 times. As soon as a spicy or tingling taste occurs, stop chewing, and put the piece between your gum and cheek. An occasional bite will expose a fresh surface of the gum and release more nicotine.

The nicotine is absorbed through the membrane on the inside of your cheek. It acts like an internal nicotine patch, providing a slow release or nicotine into your blood.

When the tingling sensation has disappeared, bite the gum gently once or twice to restart the release of nicotine. Vigorous chewing is not necessary. Stop again when you feel the tingle, and park the gum in your cheek again.

Repeat this process until you no longer feel the tingle when you bite or chew the gum. Each piece lasts about 30 minutes, although this can vary from person to person.

Any nicotine that is swallowed with saliva or washed down with eating or drinking will not be effective. If a substantial amount of nicotine is swallowed, it may cause such side effects as heartburn, upset stomach or hiccups. Thus, do not eat or drink while you have the gum in your mouth.

Most people find that chewing nine to 12 pieces a day controls their urge to smoke. The maximum number of pieces that can be safely chewed in a day is between 20 and 30, depending upon the type of nicotine gum.

You may not like the gum as much as smoking a cigarette, but using the gum will make it easier to go without a cigarette. Using a nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) can double the chances of successful, long-term quitting. It significantly decreases the severity of such withdrawal symptoms as irritability, anger, frustration, restlessness, impatience, sleepiness and food cravings. It appears to be particularly effective in decreasing withdrawal symptoms during the afternoon and evening hours.

Warnings and Precautions:

Nicotine gum may not be the right choice for those with temporomandibular joint disease (TMJ) or for those with dentures or other vulnerable dental work.

When nicotine gum is chewed like regular chewing gum, unpleasant side effects may be experienced which are similar to when people smoke cigarettes for the first time. Symptoms of too much nicotine include:

Dizziness or lightheadedness

Nausea or vomiting

Irritation of the mouth and throat

Hiccups

Other side-effects, that are often experienced when first starting to use the gum, include:

Aching jaw muscles from chewing the gum for long periods

Soreness or ulceration of the mouth

Headaches

Loud or rapid beating of the heart

Excessive salivation

Belching as the result of swallowing air while chewing the gum

Women should take precautions to avoid pregnancy while using the nicotine gum. If pregnancy occurs, the use of the gum should be discontinued.

Do not swallow the gum! Adverse effects are unlikely, but if they are experienced, contact a physician or local poison control center immediately. Nicotine overdose could occur if many pieces are chewed or swallowed in a short period of time.

Keep nicotine gum and any nicotine replacement therapy away from children and pets! If a child or pet accidentally swallows a piece of gum, contact a physician, veterinarian or local poison control center immediately.

To learn more about Nicorette Gum also visit:

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003542.html


Gary Allsebrook
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Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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#10637 05-16-2007 10:00 PM
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Hi Gary

Thanks for all the info.Nicotine gum has been around in the UK for quite a few years now,i myself used nicotine patches with great success when i gave up a 30 year long 50 a day habit ,over six years ago.As a result of the impending smoking ban someone who i can only assume has been funded by the hospitality industry,has marketed a product which resembles a tea bag and people are being encouraged to slip these into their mouths between the lip and the gum when they are in places they cannot have a cigarette.I just wonder if in these enlightened days ,we really need something that in 5 or 10 years may in itself be making headlines for more worrying reasons.


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
#10638 05-17-2007 01:51 AM
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Ireland instituted the same type of smoking ban about 2 years ago just after my last visit. It's hard to imagine that the pubs could survive without the smokers but from what I have read it seems to be working. A smoke-free pub should be quite a sight and can't wait to get back to see firsthand.

Bill D.


Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.

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