I think to quit sucessfully you have to make a mental shift from friend to enemy... once you truely see it as something that is negative then you no longer crave or desire it. You have convinced yourself of the positive attributes (all lies by the way) and ignored the negative ones at all cost (all truth) to justify your habit. You need to make this shift to the truth though....There are lots of negatives to get you there. Stare at your spit can for a while and truly contemplate how gross it actually is. Read horror stories of the realities of long time use and think of this impact on your family and yourself. Your mind is really powerfull...once it is allowed to see the truth you'll laugh at the thought that you ever even wanted to dip.

I only smoked for a short while in high school and quite a year or two after. What I did was stare at ashtrays a lot and really think about how nasty they are and how dirty a habit it was. Then I would focus on the basic concept of purposefully lighting leaves and paper soaked in chemicals on fire and breathing this in...why?? why would any rational person do this? I thought..it makes no sense and does no good...would I light a brush fire in my yard and run over and inhale the smoke? no....so why smoke at all?? after I truely belived that concept, I put them down and never wanted another. Yes physical withdrawl was a PITA, but there are ways to cope and reduce the effects and it passes quick...

hope some of that helps...your habit really is nasty smile

dw